Tape Loop...The Return?, But With A Twist Options

[Ade]

Tuesday makes no sense to me at all.

[Sostie]

How about this for an idea. People send the CDs out, copy and pass them on immediately. Or they are all sent to one person first, when the whole batch is recieved they are passed on as a single lot, after being copied (in the long run this would be cheaper). Within a short period of time everyone has the CDs to listen. Then there is a set time to listen, digest and judge them all.

[curtinparloe]

I'm interested, although I'm not sure about this whole "posting CDs" idea. The way Royal Mail is at the moment, I can see everyone involved getting frustrated at non-arrivals, and several postmen increasing their collection (the last one I was in ground to a halt this way). I'd like there to be some contingency for that.

Tuesday makes no sense to me at all.

In relation to this, or in general?

[Wife Of Rolex]

Well that's me told.

Yes, yes it is.

Tuesday makes no sense to me at all.

1. If you post on a Saturday - which you're still free to - the package will be held over Sunday and posted on Monday (or held over Sunday and Monday if there's a Bank Holiday and so not arrive until Tuesday). If you're going to pay the 1st class postage you might as well post the package on a day guaranteed to see it delivered the next day. Post days could also be Wednesdays or Thursdays. Tuesday is just the first of those days of the week.

2. As I say, Saturday is usually a half day for Post Office opening hours and collections, while you have all day Tuesday (or Wednesday or Thursday) to catch the post. For the convenience of the next person it's better to post either before or on the post days so that the cds arrive in good time for the next post date, and a full day's chance to post is better than half a day.

3. Posting during the week means people get a whole weekend with the cds before posting them on. Posting on a Saturday - again, if it's more convienient for you, you still can - means you only have the cds during the week with the quicker turnover, which might become tricky if anyone has a busy work week. Having a set post day is simply to ensure cds are posted either on or before that date to give everyone pretty much the same amount of time with each mix. It can help to have a visable horizon.

How about this for an idea. People send the CDs out, copy and pass them on immediately. Or they are all sent to one person first, when the whole batch is recieved they are passed on as a single lot, after being copied (in the long run this would be cheaper). Within a short period of time everyone has the CDs to listen. Then there is a set time to listen, digest and judge them all.

1. If there's a loss in the post then they're all gone in one shot. It's much easier to reburn one new disc and send it to the empty-handed Looper than everyone having to start again.

2. If we just pile it all together it becomes perfunctionary and the compilations will just blur into each other. The quicker turnover, with the short summery reviews, stops things flagging but it shouldn't go so quickly that it loses the spirit of the game. A week to take your time to mull over the music choices, collect your thoughts and give a score is just fine.

3. It's not a race. It's a bit of fun with some music.

I'm interested, although I'm not sure about this whole "posting CDs" idea. The way Royal Mail is at the moment, I can see everyone involved getting frustrated at non-arrivals, and several postmen increasing their collection (the last one I was in ground to a halt this way). I'd like there to be some contingency for that.

1. There's a Loop limit of 6 people. If you want in you'll have to sweep in before Everlong, Ade, and Sostie decide whether they definitely want in or not. Each Loop will work on the usual first come first serve basis. So even if you miss out on this one get ready for the next one.

2. That Loop fell on it's arse because there were a few too many in the loop to begin with and a couple of people dropped out (without warning) barely halfway through which meant cds weren't passed on. Eventually it packed up as the Loop was broken.

3. The next Loop after that was the one I tookover and streamlined. I kept it in check and shifted things about when necessary (delayed postings, people going away) to accommodate everyone in the Loop as best as possible and it worked out well. So if anything comes up this time I'll be ready with a back up plan.



You can't please all of the people all of the time. But there shouldn't be anything fundamentally wrong with the set up.


Anything else?

[widowspider]

1. If you post on a Saturday - which you're still free to - the package will be held over Sunday and posted on Monday (or held over Sunday and Monday if there's a Bank Holiday and so not arrive until Tuesday). If you're going to pay the 1st class postage you might as well post the package on a day guaranteed to see it delivered the next day. Post days could also be Wednesdays or Thursdays. Tuesday is just the first of those days of the week.

2. As I say, Saturday is usually a half day for Post Office opening hours and collections, while you have all day Tuesday (or Wednesday or Thursday) to catch the post. For the convenience of the next person it's better to post either before or on the post days so that the cds arrive in good time for the next post date, and a full day's chance to post is better than half a day.

3. Posting during the week means people get a whole weekend with the cds before posting them on. Posting on a Saturday - again, if it's more convienient for you, you still can - means you only have the cds during the week with the quicker turnover, which might become tricky if anyone has a busy work week. Having a set post day is simply to ensure cds are posted either on or before that date to give everyone pretty much the same amount of time with each mix. It can help to have a visable horizon.

However, you seem to be missing the point rather which is that you seem to be the only person for whom a weekday is a viable day to get something in the mail. There's no point arguing the logic of it when it's completely impractical for 90% of the participants. Better to go with a weekend posting date, then give people longer to listen and review the CDs so they have the following weekend to do so. As you said, it's not a race.

[Wife Of Rolex]

However, you seem to be missing the point rather which is that you seem to be the only person for whom a weekday is a viable day to get something in the mail. There's no point arguing the logic of it when it's completely impractical for 90% of the participants. Better to go with a weekend posting date, then give people longer to listen and review the CDs so they have the following weekend to do so. As you said, it's not a race.

*sighs*

If I have to say it again, I will. This doesn't have to be complicated.


You can post on a Saturday if you wish. Or a Monday. Or Tuesday. Or maybe Wednesday or Thursday if there's any late arrivals on the previous week. It's very flexible. I just said Tuesday as a starting point. I was simply avoiding the upcoming Bank Holidays.


A weekly posting date is given as a guide to the best date to post on cds so everyone is on the same page and has each cd for about the same amount of time before posting on. It's advisable to post within a couple of days of the post date just simply to keep the rythym of the Loop going. It's better to have a prompt for everyone to follow than just going by everyone's own devises.


A weekend posting date doesn't actually give you longer with the cd.

Post on a Saturday>>>delivered on a Monday>>>5 days with the cd>>>Post on a Saturday.

Post on a (eg)Tuesday>>>delivered on a Wednesday>>>6 days with the cd (including a whole weekend)>>>post on a (eg)Tuesday.

This was why I suggested a weekly posting date. NOT because it was more viable for me personally.



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There're 4 people confirmed, which would be enough to kick things off, but I'll give it to the weekend for a couple more to make themselves definites before giving the theme and getting the ball rolling properly next week.

This post has been edited by Wife Of Rolex: Mar 30 2010, 09:50 AM

[Raven]

^ Yes, I think everyone understood all that, but to be fair you weren't listening to the people who were saying it was inconvenient for them to get stuff in the post on a Tuesday, so the point had to be made a little less subtly.

[Jon 79]

You can post on a Saturday if you wish. Or a Monday. Or Tuesday. Or maybe Wednesday or Thursday if there's any late arrivals on the previous week. It's very flexible. I just said Tuesday as a starting point. I was simply avoiding the upcoming Bank Holidays.

What about on a Friday?

[Wife Of Rolex]

^ Yes, I think everyone understood all that, but to be fair you weren't listening to the people who were saying it was inconvenient for them to get stuff in the post on a Tuesday, so the point had to be made a little less subtly.

>>>>

You're free to post on Saturdays if that's easier

1. If you post on a Saturday - which you're still free to

You can post on a Saturday if you wish.

*and then she exploded*

What about on a Friday?

You funny fucker.

[Raven]

Yes, you did say:

You're free to post on Saturdays if that's easier

1. If you post on a Saturday - which you're still free to

You can post on a Saturday if you wish.

But you followed those comments up with further, lengthy arguments on why Tuesday is still better - the above messages got more than a little lost!

[logger]

And with that nobody mentioned it ever again.

[Wife Of Rolex]

But you followed those comments up with further, lengthy arguments on why Tuesday is still better - the above messages got more than a little lost!

Are you, Ade, Rachel or Sostie taking part in this first round of the Loop?