Hardcore/Punk/Emo ??? Options

[Cubie]

hardcore was like minor threat

ian mckaye from minor threat is in Fugazi, who influenced the whole of the emo genre in one way or another. it's sad that a guy who made this amazing hardcore sound way back when has managed to influence a whole generation of make-up-wearing-major-label-signed-cock-jockeys these days.
*sighs and falls down*

[RoughRambler]

the word hardcore is used way too much now, genres are getting too stupid, if a band cant be pigeon-holed then whay do people still try? goth-rock, post-emo, melodic hardcore - what does it all mean?!

bandwise for me it's all about terror (4th march in Bristol with agnostic front), hatebreed (14th march in oxford), madball, poison the well, circle takes the square, norma jean, destiny, north side kings, comeback kid, shai hulud etc etc and we've got knuckledust playing in swindon on sunday. if there are any hard music fans near swindon then come and check this out .......

[Justincredible]

yeah... i used to be into that style of hardcore. Back in the day I loved some Strife and No Innocent Victim. But nowadays I can't STAND the stupid lyrics that hatebreed, terror, and throwdown and those guys put out. Ugh. So ignorant sounding. I know they're all about mosh pits and breakdowns, but I like to watch the show and the musicians... and i think we can all admit, those riffs all start to sound the same after awhile. Norma Jean... now THERE'S some crazy heavy stuff I like. Heavy, moshy, but technical, chaotic, great intelligent lyrics, and a great stage performance.

[Cult_Status02]

This is what I think of the Hawthorne Hights, Taking back sunday shit. This is a message I left for a friend on his myspace because he like's hawthorne hights (I had him listening to old AFI, SMog UK, Bruce Lee band, Link 80, shit like that when he lived near me, and he moves away and becomes emo) Here it is:

Well mike, I'd rather like freaky clowns than a bunch sex-less whores of society screaming about what they call "emotions" when all they are are conjured up false ideas about some nameless bitch being their life. Or crying about how much life sucks and singing in a whinney voice, but wait!!! They are gonna give it and edge and have what they have labled, oh so originaly, "The Screamer, " scream some really cheesey lyric like your typical "And you broke my heart" or something of that nature. But wait, it gets worse...they then get a whole cult of susceptible teens to follow them and wear there oh so annoying uniform; tight pants, long hair, and wristbands...lots and lots of wrist things. And then what they do to their hair I won't get into, because we've all seen it, they are all the same! So, mike, what I'm trying to say is Baaaah!! at least I can be a black sheep.

THen he replies with,"Lots of bands sing about girls" and I reply:

There's a difference in the way good bands do it and the way those cheesey emo bands do. The emo bands come up with these stupid "poetic" lyrics for their little girlfriends. But the problem is, these lines are bullshit excuses for art and it makes me sick. Also, it's not so much about them singing about a girl, but the problem is, is that they act like they have no life other than their hair, pants, and some girl. As stated in an earlier post they just scream about some girl that left them and act like it's the end of the world. So go ahead and try to tell me AFI or any band I like for that matter goes arround crying about some puppy love.

That's my take, and while we are on the subject of music, check out one of my band songs if you'd like, we have a diverse sound, if you do or don't like this song, but would like to here the other stuff we do just let me know:

This is not my bands site, it's jsut a site I use to host mp3s the band is called Evil Illegal if you wanna check us out www.stlpunk.com/evilillegal
and here's the mp3 I would like you to take a listen to:

http://www.audiostreet.net/artists/012/150/fluz.html.

[franktherabbit]

i don't like to categorize what i listen to. it's all music to me. i listen to all genres (except country...what the hell is that?!) i just appreciate what music does to enhance my moods. now i'm a friggin hippie. thanx guys...

--mitch

[Justincredible]

...they then get a whole cult of susceptible teens to follow them and wear there oh so annoying uniform; tight pants, long hair, and wristbands...lots and lots of wrist things. And then what they do to their hair I won't get into, because we've all seen it, they are all the same!


But the problem is, these lines are bullshit excuses for art and it makes me sick. Also, it's not so much about them singing about a girl, but the problem is, is that they act like they have no life other than their hair, pants, and some girl.

Hahahaha. Although I do admit to liking stuff like Taking Back Sunday and Thursday... you hit the nail on the head. Hilarious!

I think my favorite T-shirt i saw at a show: Front said "Fashioncore". Back said "Fighting. Moshing. Good hair." LOL

Yeah i don't follow the "scene" style at all... although I love the scene music... but I'm very limited on the "emo" type bands I like... I love mostly hardcore.

[Justincredible]

everyone who likes this music go check out Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, and The Secret (IT) on purevolume.com. They RULE!

[frostitute]

I like it when people talk about the music I listen to.

Because I just SCREAM IN THEIR FACES AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS SHARING MY EMOTIONS IN A WAY THAT ONLY I CAN UNDERSTAND.

Do you read me? Because I sure don't.

This post has been edited by frostitute: Jan 28 2005, 05:44 AM

[spookytwigg]

right then *Takes a deep breath*

Emo music is a for of music that is driven by emotion... As all Music is driven by emotion be it a negative or posative emotion that means ALL music is emo... This also means that Emo is therefor a void genera... Cause something that hads everything in it can't TRUELY be a genera can it?

Now punk, It used to be an atittude, The need to get accros s an opinion or expression in as simple a way as possible... You didn't need to be talented to get your point accross... it was just an easy means for it... There was some great punk... and there was a whole heap of shit punk!... Nowdays punk is just a fashion statement used by people who are singing about wanting to fuck a dog in the ass and random doll manufacturers.... oh... and Vivian Westwood... but don't get me started on her...

Now days everone seems to use the phrase that punk is dead.... Which although not totally true... is accurate in the sence that old punk no longer lives... But now days there are still a few bands that are singing about things that matter in a good old punk fashion (step in Refused, Amen, even bands like Kinesis) but then its all a matter of preferance.

The true spirit of punk now days seems to be inhabiting the two generas of Industrial and Indie where it has given half of its power to each one... Some bands choose to use it... alot of them don't... And now I'm gonna shut up!

*Breeths*

Feel free to know tell me how much crap I've spoken

[Nonus Aequilibri...]

right then *Takes a deep breath*

Emo music is a for of music that is driven by emotion... As all Music is driven by emotion be it a negative or posative emotion that means ALL music is emo... This also means that Emo is therefor a void genera... Cause something that hads everything in it can't TRUELY be a genera can it?

That's just what I was going to say. The fact that all these bands categorised their music by it being driven by emotion was bloody arrogant in assuming that no other music was.

I appreciate the fact that they're trying to be different and unconventional. Unfortunately, anyone can be different and unconventional but that doesn't automatically make it good, like they seem to think it does. I have friends that are into emo, and occasionally get forced to listen to some, and everything I've heard is either plain and ordinary when it actually sounds musical (quite the opposite of what they seem to be trying to achieve), and when they're being "dischordant" or "raw" or "angular" (a word i've heard used to describe it), it just sounds like a big bloody horrible mess.

There also seems to be a new "best band in the world ever" every single week, who no one's ever heard of. And the amount of times I've been told that it's so great how you can go to a gig and see about "8 bands for a fiver!!"... That's because they're probably all utter shit...

I don't usually like to rant about types of music I don't like, since I can appreciate that just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. On the other hand, I don't mind ranting about a type of music that I get forced to listen to, which applies in this case (makes a change from it being pop music).

[pots]

i like both types of music, country AND western

[Ohio_is_for_love...]

I must admit i catergorise things, purely because im lazy and i find it hard to explain, so me explaining things would be diabolical, like this for instance.

[Justincredible]

exactly... SHEESH i didn't realize I was going to open a can of worms about the useage of the word "emo". Geez its like saying "bomb" in an airport.

Ok people, lets get off our rants about what "emo" does and does not mean and talk about the bands that typicall fall into the Indy music scene, be it the heavy side or "hardcore" (GASP he used a categorization) or the light side a la "emo" (GASP again, more categorization!)

What rocks for you!?!?!?

[Justincredible]

I like it when people talk about the music I listen to.

Because I just SCREAM IN THEIR FACES AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS SHARING MY EMOTIONS IN A WAY THAT ONLY I CAN UNDERSTAND.

Do you read me? Because I sure don't.

And i'm still trying to figure out if that was sarcasm or not, since I know you listen to a lot of the same bands I do. haha. And nick looks like he's trying to kill me, and its scary. I think i'll go write an emotional song about my fear of nick frost in that picture, and maybe dot it with my tears...

[Ohio_is_for_love...]

And i'm still trying to figure out if that was sarcasm or not, since I know you listen to a lot of the same bands I do. haha.  And nick looks like he's trying to kill me, and its scary.  I think i'll go write an emotional song about my fear of nick frost in that picture, and maybe dot it with my tears...

Haha...