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Apr 14 2005, 10:30 AM
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Three Pinter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 364 Joined: 1-October 04 From: Kent, UK Member No.: 2,249 |
QUOTE (Omniscia @ Apr 13 2005, 11:13 PM) The golden age of the studio is over and done with, definitely. Just look at the crap they're green-lighting these days -- Are We There Yet?, The Pacifier, Alone in the Dark, Son of the Mask. trouble is there is a market for those sort of films. some people just aren't interested in 'film' as such, they're happy to just while away a few hours watching whatever is in front of them, and don't care if it's pushing boundaries/re-shaping genres etc... so while there's money to be made in the trash market they'll unfortunatley keep churning them out. speaking of which I hear there is a follow up to 'Saw' |
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Apr 14 2005, 10:33 AM
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhta ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 3,048 Joined: 20-January 05 From: Cardiff, Wales Member No.: 3,241 |
They're doing the same thing to the film industry that they did to the music industry, mass produced, plasticised, commercial, crap with only about 3 storylines that they rehash over and over again
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Apr 14 2005, 05:20 PM
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Young Roberts could not face another moussaka ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 715 Joined: 23-February 05 From: Norway/Oxford Member No.: 3,477 |
wahay! Which one of you is the caveman?
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Apr 14 2005, 05:38 PM
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Better to reign in hell... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 5,984 Joined: 1-November 04 From: Leicestershire Member No.: 2,676 |
While there's plenty of brilliant films around, I can't think of any films I like from earlier than the 70s... Just about every film I've seen from the days of black and white, or early colour, they've been utterly dreadful.
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Apr 14 2005, 06:50 PM
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Varga Girl ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 7,301 Joined: 15-October 04 From: New York Member No.: 2,531 |
QUOTE (Nonus Aequilibrium @ Apr 14 2005, 12:38 PM) While there's plenty of brilliant films around, I can't think of any films I like from earlier than the 70s... Just about every film I've seen from the days of black and white, or early colour, they've been utterly dreadful. Get out there and see some films! |
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Apr 14 2005, 06:56 PM
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"Mus" à gauche, "TANG" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Moderators Posts: 15,567 Joined: 11-November 04 From: London Member No.: 2,740 |
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Apr 14 2005, 07:05 PM
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Not even that far back, classics from the 60's too... Steve McQueen and Paul Newman. Get stuck in lad! Oh and don't neglect the Westerns
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Apr 14 2005, 07:08 PM
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"Mus" à gauche, "TANG" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Moderators Posts: 15,567 Joined: 11-November 04 From: London Member No.: 2,740 |
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Apr 14 2005, 07:46 PM
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Ahhhh Peter Sellers. Genius. He never found the role though. He came close with Strangelove, but never to his full potential. What a sad waste.
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Apr 14 2005, 07:57 PM
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You're standing on my neck... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 377 Joined: 20-March 05 From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Member No.: 3,677 |
I'm not really opposed to either era of filmmaking. I do feel that I enoyed more of the movies that came out when I was child, but that I was also of a younger age then so I'm sure my opinion was slightly less versified than it is now. The thing I think is missing with a lot of the movies that are out now is a sense that the script writers tried to present an original or solid idea. Naturally I go right for Star Wars with this one. I think that filmmakers should approch thier movies as Lucas did with A New Hope. There he had little money and relied on a good story to carry the viewers attention. The same coudl be said with more modern movies like Clerks. It had excellent writing and cost $22,769 to make.
Bottom line with a movie should be: "What's the point of the story, and why is it worth telling?" |
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Apr 14 2005, 08:17 PM
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"Mus" à gauche, "TANG" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Moderators Posts: 15,567 Joined: 11-November 04 From: London Member No.: 2,740 |
QUOTE (Draven Grey @ Apr 14 2005, 07:57 PM) I'm not really opposed to either era of filmmaking. I do feel that I enoyed more of the movies that came out when I was child, but that I was also of a younger age then so I'm sure my opinion was slightly less versified than it is now. The thing I think is missing with a lot of the movies that are out now is a sense that the script writers tried to present an original or solid idea. Naturally I go right for Star Wars with this one. I think that filmmakers should approch thier movies as Lucas did with A New Hope. There he had little money and relied on a good story to carry the viewers attention. The same coudl be said with more modern movies like Clerks. It had excellent writing and cost $22,769 to make. Bottom line with a movie should be: "What's the point of the story, and why is it worth telling?" I think the success of Star Wars (originally) is more down to the design and special effects, and tapping into a well worked formula. In no way was the story individual - its a reworking of Kurowsawa's Hidden Fortress - and Lucas admits to using Joseph Campbells book "The Heros with a thousand Faces" constantly when writing the Star Wars script, using its study of universal myths to create the plot. Lucas' inability to plot and write (and direct) a film can easily be seen in the last 2 films (Eps 1 & 2). Having said that, I would happily call it a classic if only for the bench mark it set for design, effects and marketing. And it was a major part of one of the "Golden Ages" which saw Scorsese, Coppola, Spielberg, Carpenter etc at their peak. |
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Apr 14 2005, 08:35 PM
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Candygram! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 8,488 Joined: 10-October 04 From: The 44th Parallel Member No.: 2,452 |
QUOTE (Nonus Aequilibrium @ Apr 14 2005, 01:38 PM) While there's plenty of brilliant films around, I can't think of any films I like from earlier than the 70s... Just about every film I've seen from the days of black and white, or early colour, they've been utterly dreadful. Get thee to a video store and rent the collective oeuvres of Hitchcock, Kubrick (especially Dr. Strangelove), Orson Welles, John Ford, David Lean, Elia Kazan, Billy Wilder, etc, etc, etc. |
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Apr 14 2005, 09:02 PM
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Four Pinter ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 586 Joined: 1-December 04 Member No.: 2,843 |
QUOTE (Sostie @ Apr 14 2005, 08:17 PM) I think the success of Star Wars (originally) is more down to the design and special effects, and tapping into a well worked formula. In no way was the story individual - its a reworking of Kurowsawa's Hidden Fortress - and Lucas admits to using Joseph Campbells book "The Heros with a thousand Faces" constantly when writing the Star Wars script, using its study of universal myths to create the plot. Lucas' inability to plot and write (and direct) a film can easily be seen in the last 2 films (Eps 1 & 2). Having said that, I would happily call it a classic if only for the bench mark it set for design, effects and marketing. And it was a major part of one of the "Golden Ages" which saw Scorsese, Coppola, Spielberg, Carpenter etc at their peak. And the ironic thing about that is that Lucas post Star Wars, sued people for plagiarism. The whole Death Star Trench Run was lifted from 633 Squadron. |
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Apr 14 2005, 09:06 PM
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"Mus" à gauche, "TANG" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Moderators Posts: 15,567 Joined: 11-November 04 From: London Member No.: 2,740 |
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Apr 14 2005, 10:52 PM
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