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Raven
post Aug 7 2005, 03:17 PM
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Good though Beginnings was, for me this is where the series really kicked off - but what do you think?
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post Aug 7 2005, 04:12 PM
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I think this is my favourite episode of all time. For me it really sums up what happens as you get into your mid-twenties. Whenever I go to a party with dips (which happens more and more as I get older) I can't help but smile.
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post Aug 7 2005, 04:32 PM
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After Beginnings laid the groundwork, Gatherings brought together most of the rest of the Spaced essentials. We're are properly introduced to Mike and Twist, we learn that Brian and Marsha have some kind of deal, and that something happened to Mike and Tim that stopped Mike joining the army.

I don't suppose many were taken in by the trick opening that suggests that the first episode was only a dream, since it has a dream-like quality from the start. But it does throw the viewer off balance for a bit, and tells us you can't take anything for granted on this show.

Continuing the theme of things I failed to understand on first viewing, I didn't get the '8 1/2 minutes later' flat-cleaning joke and thought that Tim and Daisy did in fact have sex. It seems so obvious now, but I didn't notice that all the clutter had been cleared away. Did anyone else make the same mistake?

When Tim and Daisy are organising the party, Tim mentions that all his other friends are otherwise engaged. Strangely, we don't hear anything more about them again, unless one of them is Tyres. I suppose it would have been impractical to clutter the series with many more characters, but why bring them up at all?

Twist's response to Brian's description of his work - 'I know exactly what you mean' - suggests she has hidden depths (though this is undermined when she breaks off with, 'Oo, Time Warp!'), and hints of their relationship to come.

I like the fact that their party turns out to be terrible, and Amber's is much better. This is the first appearance of the long-running theme that in their mid-20s Tim and Daisy are already getting too old. Though they're not quite there yet - 'They'll be a time for dips, OK? But this isn't it.'
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post Aug 7 2005, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE (Chapman Baxter @ Aug 7 2005, 08:32 AM)
Continuing the theme of things I failed to understand on first viewing, I didn't get the '8 1/2 minutes later' flat-cleaning joke and thought that Tim and Daisy did in fact have sex.  It seems so obvious now, but I didn't notice that all the clutter had been cleared away.  Did anyone else make the same mistake?


Only until about the second exhale, because I convinced myself they wouldn't make the mistake of killing the sexual tension in the second episode. Plus the vacuum was well-placed in the reveal.

I love that joke but not for the obvious reason; will get to that in the other thread...

There's always the possibility that Tim was lying about having other friends, BTW. Anyone have a zoom on their DVD player? Maybe if you get in really close on that notepad it says "Mr. Guacamole Window."
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post Aug 9 2005, 05:12 PM
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I think this episode served as the second half of the episode really. By that I mean that they built on what Beginnings had given them in the form of the Daisy/Tim relationship and the fact they didn't really know each other (''hahaha thrush'') but also fleshed out the peripheral characters to a much greater extent. Plus there is the first Mike and Tim tree flashback.

I've always thought that the greatest development for the series that emerged from the series was the dispelling of Brian's mystique and ambiguity. Before we were unsure about him and whose side he was on but in this one he falls firmly on the side of Tim and Daisy and he is brought into the fold. Which is greta since he has some great moments later on in the series and this was the episode which allowed for those to happen and started his development as a character.

I didn't fall into the trap of thinking that Tim and Daisy had had sex, although I don't know why, since it was the sort of thing that would have gone ove rthe head of my younger self but i got it as soon as they showed the clean flat, and the 'do wanna descale the teapot?' 'You filthy bitch' 'You love it' exchange confirmed what I expected.
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post Aug 9 2005, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (Raven @ Aug 7 2005, 04:17 PM)
Good though Beginnings was, for me this is where the series really kicked off - but what do you think?
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I wholeheartedly agree - Episode 2 was where Spaced really fired on all cylinders for the first time as far as I'm concerned. Okay, the opening epiosde was great, but like any good film, the series needed an element of exposition to bring things up to speed. But Episode 2 was by far a major improvement, and really helped to gel those early visual and comic stylings of Episode 1, and it also fully introduced all of the remaining key characters properly: primarily Mike and Twist.

The Oddness Quotient was cranked up a few more notches too, preparing us for the wonders of Episode 3. With the 2001, Children Of The Corn and Close Encounters homages (to name just a few), the title 'Spaced' (which I had initially found a little strange, and yet at the same time thoroughly intriguing) suddenly seemed to make perfect sense to me.

The '8 1/2 minutes later...' joke was a deft little gag, wrong-footing the audience as it did, what with the cheesy jazz-porn music noodling away in the background (ultimately enhancing the comic effect), but as far I recall I did get it first time around, although it might have only been once it got to the "descale the teapot" bit that I actually twigged - although the hoover did kind of give it away. smile.gif Normally (and I'm not ashamed to admit it) my brain can be a tad slow on the uptake - either it will take a second viewing to get the occasional joke, or the realisation will hit home perhaps ten seconds later. But, in a way, I kind of like that semi-delayed 'penny drop' moment, but even more so getting a joke only after a second or maybe even third viewing. Kind of makes it that little more special when you 'discover' something you missed previously.

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post Aug 16 2005, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Chapman Baxter @ Aug 7 2005, 05:32 PM)
When Tim and Daisy are organising the party, Tim mentions that all his other friends are otherwise engaged.  Strangely, we don't hear anything more about them again, unless one of them is Tyres.
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Tyres and Bilbo?
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post Aug 16 2005, 05:36 PM
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Shouldn't the episode 1.3 bit have been put up by now?
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post Aug 16 2005, 06:34 PM
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This was the first episode I saw and because of that it has something special about it, though not my overall favourite. I can identify more with the whole crap party/dips thing now than when I first saw it-unfortunately wacko.gif !

I was either just leaving college or had just started uni at the time so I enjoyed Tim's tirade on 'The Time Warp' being for 1st year drama students- cos I was one and our college does (or did) Rocky Horror every single year.
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