 ZULU vs BRAVEHEART, 2006 first Versus |
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 Jan 3 2006, 05:37 PM
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"Mus" à gauche, "TANG"  Group: Senior Moderators Posts: 15,567 Joined: 11-November 04 From: London Member No.: 2,740  |
2006's first versus is between two popular, historically inaccurate, pre-20th century war films.
ZULU Brits (mainly Welsh) defend an outpost against "Zulus...farzands of 'em". Led by a top Hollywood star with a dubious accent. ZU-LOOOOOOOOO BRAVEHEART Scots fight the evil English for independence. Led by a top Hollywood star with a dubious accent. FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM Get voting. I really wanna see those fingers. This post has been edited by Sostie: Jan 3 2006, 05:40 PM |
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Jan 3 2006, 06:07 PM
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never rub another man's rhubarb Group: Senior Members Posts: 5,714 Joined: 2-October 04 Member No.: 2,308 |
Both are terrible shite.
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Jan 3 2006, 06:10 PM
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Burly legal Group: Senior Members Posts: 454 Joined: 8-November 05 From: Tokyo Member No.: 4,655 |
QUOTE (whitey @ Jan 4 2006, 03:07 AM) Both are terrible shite.  What the Deuces do you mean? |
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Jan 3 2006, 06:16 PM
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never rub another man's rhubarb Group: Senior Members Posts: 5,714 Joined: 2-October 04 Member No.: 2,308 |
Either I'm reading both of the options wrong (possible) or they are both awful (probable).
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Jan 3 2006, 06:31 PM
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It's not the years, honey, it's the mileage. Group: Senior Members Posts: 3,714 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Penicuik - ass-end of beyond Member No.: 3,744 |
Zulu for me, please. At least it's a bit more true to the actual history!!
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Jan 3 2006, 07:49 PM
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Don't ever get a cat. Group: Senior Members Posts: 4,143 Joined: 29-March 05 From: 2nd Battalion, 506th. Member No.: 3,736 |
Zulu. I do quite like it but i'd watch nearly anything over Braveheart, apart from maybe the Patriot...
Edited for typos. This post has been edited by Igmeister: Jan 3 2006, 07:50 PM |
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Jan 3 2006, 10:03 PM
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"Mus" à gauche, "TANG" Group: Senior Moderators Posts: 15,567 Joined: 11-November 04 From: London Member No.: 2,740 |
Went for Zulu. Other than the well executed (yet historically laughable) battle scenes, Braveheart is a floppy, untidy, unwashed cock.
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Jan 3 2006, 10:16 PM
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Fallon Group: Senior Members Posts: 10,262 Joined: 17-December 04 From: The Scary-Go-Round Member No.: 2,946 |
Zulu bored me. So did Braveheart. And Mel Gibbon [sic] is a bit of a tosspot.
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Jan 4 2006, 12:46 AM
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Alley Viper Group: Senior Members Posts: 11,843 Joined: 29-December 04 From: Cobra Island Member No.: 3,024 |
Zulu, no doubt. I love the "Men of Harlech" scene.
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Jan 4 2006, 09:58 AM
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Guests |
they may take our lives but they'll never take our......
freedom! This post has been edited by bigcider: Jan 4 2006, 09:58 AM |
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Jan 4 2006, 10:17 AM
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Walking the Plank Group: Senior Members Posts: 1,932 Joined: 4-October 04 From: ????????? Member No.: 2,357 |
I`ll go with Zulu due my antipathy to Mel Gibson.
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Jan 4 2006, 10:19 AM
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I'm sorry; I meant, "Drop dead, *comrade*." Group: Senior Members Posts: 4,352 Joined: 21-January 05 From: CTU Member No.: 3,252 |
I went for Braveheart, purely and simply for the battle scenes which were phenominal.
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Jan 4 2006, 02:21 PM
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All out of mercy today. Group: Senior Members Posts: 7,109 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Here to Eternity (Just outside Bolton) Member No.: 4,706 |
Braveheart has higher production values, but it's Zulu for me.
I think as an English person I'm not allowed to like Braveheart, am I? It's so anti-english as to defy belief. But that's not the reason I don't like it. It's highly concentrated sentimentalist claptrap IMO, more so than practically every other film. Besides, Michael Caine Kicks Arse. |
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Jan 4 2006, 03:37 PM
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Early 80's Tom Hanks Group: Senior Members Posts: 5,693 Joined: 6-October 05 From: Isle of Dogs, London Member No.: 4,536 |
QUOTE (DazDaMan @ Jan 3 2006, 06:31 PM) Zulu for me, please. At least it's a bit more true to the actual history!! well yes and no. Do you remember that documentary a while ago that said that Rourke's Drift rose to such cultural prominence becuase the British needed some sort of good news story to cover up for a massive defeat they had recently suffered?...so whilst Braveheart is less "factually" accurate, both are products of nationalist myth construction... Personally I like Braveheart more, less morally contentious, and more obviously stupid and enjoyable as a piece of Hollywood history warping crap. I like the way it tries to manipulate your emotions so obviously, like a soapy hand job for your feelings. |
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Jan 4 2006, 04:04 PM
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Four Pinter Group: Senior Members Posts: 586 Joined: 1-December 04 Member No.: 2,843 |
While a lot of people say that Braveheart is anti English, and it is to a certain extent, I can't say that it exactly casts a lot of the Scots in the best light either. The Scots nobles selling out to get themselves a bit more land for instance. And as to the brutality of it, both sides weren't exactly bloodless. We hear of York being 'sacked', and I wouldn't imagine for a minute they just mean that the Scots army will pop down the local boozer and have a quick punch up with a few locals.
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