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[Serafina_Pekkala]

Let's face it, the only reason Majel Barrett was Deanna's mother is because she was Gene Roddenberry's wife. Terrible actress.

Oh she was, for sure. And her presence is mandatory - must be something in Gene's will or something. Her appearance on DS9 was a contrived nonsense and kinda embarrassing. Plus she is really old looking and gets these romantic plotlines were she is irressistable. We all felt like Odo.

She should just be happy with saying "perimeters established" as the computer. Heck - she is in every frekking episode.

Sefi x

[Omniscia]

Don't forget, she's like Lamont Cranston: She can cloud the minds of her prey.

[shinyelvenqueen]

Whenever Majel Barrett was on screen did they play any computer at the same time? Coz, that would be wierd....

[thirtyhelens]

I still think they should have let Wesley get killed for running on the grass.

He was a pint sized prick and a half.

NO WESLEY PICKING-ON. I will have none of it.

Just because you all love a bit of Picard arse.

And Picard guns.



Hnngh!

This post has been edited by thirtyhelens: Jan 17 2007, 07:58 AM

[shinyelvenqueen]

*peers over 30H's shoulder and raises fist*

Yeeeeaaahh!

[Raven]

I've recently watched the forth season of TNG again, after a gap of the best part of a decade, and the thing that surprised me most is how ropey some of it is.

Whilst it generally still stands up well, and there are some exceptional episodes, there are some very hum-drum ones as well, and some of those that I remembered as being quite good now seem quite ordinary.

I think TNG's biggest failing, if it has one, is that since it was made TV series have evolved a lot, with the emphasis shifting to more complex on-going plot lines and better characterisation. Although the TNG crew are all likeable, past Picard and Data - and possibly Worf - they aren't very interesting and watching it again now it can seem a bit bland at times.

Or possibly Bridge Beige would be a better term!

In contrast, I recently saw Man Trap, the first episode* of the original Star Trek, and although that too has dated, the simple story line holds up much better and, of course, Kirk, Spock and McCoy are what make the show.

Of all the different Trek series I'd have to say that Deep Space Nine is my favourite, purely because of the more involved story and the better use of characters - both main and supporting.

Voyager, by contrast, was to my mind a waste of potential - because of the enclosed nature of the show they could have done something really interesting, with plenty of recurring characters and on-going plot lines, but instead we got the pneumatic Jeri Ryan and the annoying Naomi Wildman . . . (come back Wesley, all is forgiven!).

Enterprise was better, at least in series three and four, and could have gone on to be very good but the last season was sheer fan-wank!

(*Screened in the US).

[UnderSpaced]

The thing that's irritating me about Star Trek: TNG is that when Wesley Crusher sees something wrong or bad, no one seems to believe him, telling him "not now Wesley". He's usually the right one and it gets on my nerves sometimes.

[Chapman Baxter]

Wil Wheaton reviews Star Trek: TNG.

[Jubei]

I'm going to satnd up and be counted for the 'Wesley Crusher should never have made it onto the Enterprise' gang, just cause his mum was on the crew and Picard fancied her for gawds sake. He was a whiney nob. I saw one the other day where they had an exchange student or something on the enterprise (Riker was off being Klingon for the day) and Wesley was acting like a right dick. He's so nice it makes me sick. They should have swapped him for evil dimension wesley or something.

[Sostie]

Not read through the entire thread so I may (though I doubt it) be repeating what has already been said. But, apart from the 60's camp fest of the original, the only Star Trek I watched and enjoyed avidly was Voyager. It may have relied on the Holodeck and worm holes a few too many times, but it also had some outstanding episodes (and babes)

[widowspider]

Wil Wheaton reviews Star Trek: TNG.

Here's a reason I love Wil Wheaton:

(Reviewing Encounter at Farpoint)
"Riker and the Doctor begin to discuss the mystery, when Wesley interrupts them to explicitly point out how mysterious the whole thing is. (It's right around this moment, according to historical data and polling research, that the Kill Wesley movement got its first member, though scholars are unable to agree upon who it was. It has been narrowed down to a single male virgin, approximately age 24, living in his parents' basement in the American Midwest.)"

[Julie]

Not read through the entire thread so I may (though I doubt it) be repeating what has already been said.  But, apart from the 60's camp fest of the original, the only Star Trek I watched and enjoyed avidly was Voyager.  It may have relied on the Holodeck and worm holes a few too many times, but it also had some outstanding episodes (and babes)

I also had a massive crush on Tom Paris.






Yup, I'll get my coat.

[widowspider]

I also had a massive crush on Tom Paris.
Yup, I'll get my coat.

I thought everyone did?

Come on, he was pretty hot.

[gulfcoast_highwa...]

I thought everyone did?

Come on, he was pretty hot.

He just looked good in comparison to human wallpaper sample, Harry Kim.

[m0r1arty]

Wesley, I mean Mr Wheaton, might have only been doing this a few months - but he's yet to mention an episode that didn't have himin it somewhere.

I remember loads of episodes without him in them.

It seems a bit Troy McClure to me!

And you lot, I can't believe it. Liking lil' Crusher boy.

Raven, you might be right about the episodes not having much in them, but there are a few nuggets of brilliance still - I reckon these guys helped put characterisation back into the picture, subtle maybe, but this was around Due South / Superman Season and before Six Feet Under or Friends.

-m0r