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post Mar 15 2007, 02:54 AM
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Since they are doing a remake ( or "reimaging" as they call it) I thought I would bring up this film. This has got to be my favorite within the horror genre, from the score to Michael Myers creepy mask, the movie still trips me out. As for the remake, I think it shouldn't be done, but I also wonder how it will turn out as well.
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post Mar 15 2007, 12:22 PM
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Moved from the Reviews section, as the above isn't a review!
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post Mar 15 2007, 01:12 PM
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No arguements from me. It's the film that made me really fall in love with film and made me aware of what a director does. Carpenter is a god.

As for the sequel...it's got Carpenter's blessing (bet then so did The Fog remake), and Rob Zombie can either be average - House Of 1000 Corpses - or pretty impressive - Devil's Rejects. It may be a bad idea, but I'll still see it.
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post Mar 15 2007, 01:28 PM
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They shouldn't remake good films... especially John Carpenter movies.
It's like when they did Assault on Presinct 13. The remake was ok... (it was never going to be better) ... they kept the plot similar... but the original is & always will be the better film.

The only Carpenter film I'd like to see a remake of is 'They Live'. That was great, but I think John should remake it, & make it serious.... not as comedic as the original.

As for remaking Halloween, & guess it's no worse than making god knows how many sequels to it. - But I won't be rushing out to see it.

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post Mar 15 2007, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (Jon 79 @ Mar 15 2007, 01:28 PM)
They shouldn't remake good films... especially John Carpenter movies.
It's like when they did Assault on Presinct 13.  The remake was ok... (it was never going to be better) ... they kept the plot similar... but the original is & always will be the better film.

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I thought they did a great job on the new Assault. And remember, the original was in effect a remake.
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post Mar 15 2007, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE (Sostie @ Mar 15 2007, 01:37 PM)
  And remember, the original was in effect a remake.
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Was it?!

The original I'd give 9/10... the remake maybe 7/10.

It didn't need a remake though.
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post Mar 15 2007, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (Jon 79 @ Mar 15 2007, 01:56 PM)
Was it?!

The original I'd give 9/10... the remake maybe 7/10.

It didn't need a remake though.
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It's pretty damn close to Howard Hawks' Rio Bravo (I think it's that one). It's one of Carpenter's fave directors, and he always wanted to do a western. I think budget restriction led him to do an "urban western".
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post Mar 15 2007, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (Sostie @ Mar 15 2007, 10:10 AM)
It's pretty damn close to Howard Hawks' Rio Bravo (I think it's that one).
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That's right! I was recently talking about "westerns" that aren't westerns and I mentioned Assault. Dur! wacko.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (Sostie @ Mar 15 2007, 02:37 PM)
I thought they did a great job on the new Assault.  And remember, the original was in effect a remake.
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Agreed. I thought the remake was excellent, even if it could've done with someone more menacing than Gabriel Byrne as the villain.

Back on topic, I'm not sure I rate Halloween all that much, but then I saw it for the first time very late in the day. Last year - on Halloween, in fact. I mean, I get it's the daddy of all slasher films, and that, at the time, it must have been terrifying. But horror has come on such a long way since then, that when I watched it for the first time, it was quite anticlimactic - I wasn't scared at all.
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post Mar 17 2007, 04:19 PM
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If they remake Escape from New York I'm going to hollywood with a shotgun.
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post Mar 17 2007, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (Spider Dijon @ Mar 17 2007, 04:19 PM)
If they remake Escape from New York I'm going to hollywood with a shotgun.
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Maybe you should visit Hollywood with a shotgun anyway... because Escape from LA was ever made!
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QUOTE (Jon 79 @ Mar 17 2007, 06:14 PM)
Maybe you should visit Hollywood with a shotgun anyway... because Escape from LA was ever made!
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Haha laugh.gif that was a remake in itself. The only noticable difference was Steve Buscemi, People saying "I thought you'd be taller", a Hispanic terrorist and possibly the location too, but I can't be sure of that last one.
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post Mar 17 2007, 11:29 PM
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Is it my imagination or was there a part of Escape From L.A. where he had to play basketball in order to not die?
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post Mar 17 2007, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (Sean of the Dead @ Mar 17 2007, 11:29 PM)
Is it my imagination or was there a part of Escape From L.A. where he had to play basketball in order to not die?
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It's been a few years since I've seen it, but ... yeah... I think someone was forcing him to play.
I don't remember much about the film except for a brilliant piece of OTT character acting from Bruce Campbell... and a rediculous surfing/sports-car stunt.
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post Mar 17 2007, 11:45 PM
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^ Yeah... not John Carpenter's greatest film moment.

I went off Halloween after waching it for the 20th time (I was a media studies teacher for five years and used to teach it as part of the horror module for the 6th form).

John Carpenter really did have a run of amazing films from Dark Star onwards (but not necessarily including Dark Star.. even Carpenter now says it is a movie of its time and he would make it a bit faster paced...)....

* Assault On Precinct 13
* Halloween
(Do we count Elvis? or Somebody's Watching Me?... they were TV movies, really....)
* The Fog
* Escape From New York
* The Thing
Then unfortunately Christine and Starman...
But then
* Big Trouble In Little China
* Prince Of Darkness
* They Live...

what a resume!
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