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NiteFall
post Oct 11 2011, 02:17 PM
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First proper trailer for The Avengers. I think I just had a mild nerdgasm.
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post Oct 11 2011, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (NiteFall @ Oct 11 2011, 03:17 PM) *
First proper trailer for The Avengers. I think I just had a mild nerdgasm.

Looks good.
Downy is on top form.
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post Oct 11 2011, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (NiteFall @ Oct 11 2011, 03:17 PM) *
First proper trailer for The Avengers. I think I just had a mild nerdgasm.


WANT. NOW!

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post Oct 11 2011, 07:53 PM
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Yeah that looks fantastic. I'm kind of glad that I have no idea what the plot is (aside from the case that NYC seems to be suffering a serious case of Carsplosions), I've tried to avoid knowing every little detail about this. That Downy line was heartily cheesy though, but ...I don't even think I mind.
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post Oct 11 2011, 07:58 PM
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Downey Jr can pull off a mega-cheese line with considerable charm, though.

I am So. Excited. Mark Ruffalo as Hulk! *dies*
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post Oct 11 2011, 10:08 PM
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I say it needs more Hawkeye, but that's because I'm a massive comic book nerd.
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post Oct 11 2011, 11:06 PM
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The movie might have him in more, it's just that he's not going to sell tickets like Iron Man or Captain America will.

It was really cool seeing them all together on screen and talking. Does anyone know how much this movie cost? Think of all the actors fees they're paying, and the effects for Iron Man AND the Hulk, as well as standard action movie fare.

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post Oct 11 2011, 11:21 PM
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Studios tend to be very cagey about revealing how much their films cost because that can sometimes overshadow the film itself (see something like Waterworld, for example, where a lot of discussion of the film priior to release centered on how much it cost to make) and because they tend to mess around with the figures through creative accountancy. However, the reports online seem to place it somewhere between $170-$260 million. I'd imagine that it's closer to the higher figure than the lower one, although Marvel have done well to keep their budgets reasonably low for blockbusters (Thor and Captain America cost about $150 million each, whereas Transformers: Dark of The Moon cost about $200 million) so I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the low $200 million range either.

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post Oct 11 2011, 11:39 PM
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Movies seem to have a bit of a Catch-22 where studios can't afford to make a movie partially because famous actors are so expensive, but they won't make a movie with cheaper actors because they don't think they'll do as well. Personally I don't really care who is in a movie, so long as the acting itself is good. I don't see a movie specifically because of who is starring - in fact it has no bearing whatsoever, and I'll gladly see a movie starring someone I don't like if the film itself looks good.

I don't think actors should be paid anything like what they get per movie. If someone like Will Smith got just 10% of what he gets paid, he'd still be a very wealthy man. I'm not saying it should be cut that low, but I definitely think it's a bit preposterous with some of the very big stars. Kelsey Grammer was getting a million dollars per episode by the end of Frasier - now, I love that show, but I don't think anyone can argue that he did $1,000,000 worth of work for each episode on it. It's ridiculous.

You could shave a massive amount of a film's budget if actors didn't cost so much, and then have more to spend on effects and locations and so on.
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post Oct 12 2011, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (GundamGuy_UK @ Oct 11 2011, 11:06 PM) *
Does anyone know how much this movie cost?


It's estimated at about $220 million apparently. Big money.
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post Oct 12 2011, 12:06 PM
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The thing is, after all this buildup and excitement to go along with a built-in colossal devoted fanbase, it could be absolute shit and people would still flock to see it. I'm going to go to the cinema for it regardless of what reviews say on the matter.

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post Oct 12 2011, 12:19 PM
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It looks pretty good. And that is just Chris Evans. Fnar.

And I am not a comic nerd.
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post Oct 12 2011, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE (Hobbes @ Oct 12 2011, 01:06 PM) *
The thing is, after all this buildup and excitement to go along with a built-in colossal devoted fanbase, it could be absolute shit and people would still flock to see it. I'm going to go to the cinema for it regardless of what reviews say on the matter.


Agreed. And also, regardless of how good it is, is there anyone on the planet interested in this movie who isn't aware of it? Of course I understand that movies need lots of marketing, especially today, but sometimes it seems a bit unnecessary. This isn't so much about The Avengers, but the state of movies in general. Studios will refuse to greenlight a movie because it would cost too much, but the reason it'd cost so much is greatly down to the fact that they spend a third of the entire budget on the main actor, and then spend more on advertising than the movie itself cost to make. Then movie ticket prices are inflated (or they force out a '3D' version to con some more money out of people), and they take in what should be a very impressive amount of money, but it's not much profit because the film cost such a colossal amount in unneeded stuff, and the price of admission put many off who were on the fence. And then they complain that piracy is killing the industry.

Perhaps if movies were made where they didn't spend $80,000,000 on one person out of the huge team of people involved, or maybe if they just had a trailer and posters instead of building a colossal "viral" campaign to increase hype (it's the fucking AVENGERS, it doesn't need hyping up), then the industry wouldn't be in such dire straights as they claim they are.

Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now.
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:21 PM
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Nah I agree it Is madness. It was interesting hearing Kevin Smith talk about it with Red State. He said the film cost $3 million and a film studio would have spent $10+ million promoting it; so the film would have had to made $13 million just to break even. People called him arrogant and whatnot for self promoting, but by touring with it the films investors made their $3 million back before it's even been released in cinemas/VOD/DVD etc.

At least, I found it interesting

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post Oct 12 2011, 01:49 PM
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It's something I care a lot about as a working/struggling actor trying to get into the film industry. Put it this way: When I do background work for a big show like The Good Wife or Curb Your Enthusiasm, I make $85 a day for what is usually a 12-14 hour day of filming. That's [b]before[/i] taxes are taken out. The leads are paid six-figure sums per episode.

The disparity between the actors on any show is huge. Wall Street has nothing on Hollywood when it comes to wage equality in an industry. smile.gif I would certainly like to be able to get paid a comfortable wage for my work, but the millions and millions always seems completely ludicrous. Why not agree to directly receive a percentage of your fee (like 20%) and ask them to donate the rest to a non-profit, or bump the wages of the background actors and catering crew, etc? It would feel more fair. We're all there at 5am in the freezing cold.

I could get on my soapbox aaallll day about this. smile.gif
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