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Anti_God
post Nov 19 2004, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE (superfurryandy @ Nov 19 2004, 06:39 PM)
But why not criticise,
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Because Spaced rocks! quite franky and u have to question the wisdom of criticising Spaced on a forum filled with dedicated dare i say fanatical fans smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2004, 08:57 PM
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As long as the criticism is well thought out and can be in the least bit justified, critique away!
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post Nov 19 2004, 09:22 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree. Like, if I were to comment on the joke in the second episode about the cleaning of the flat, there should be no problem.

Let me clarify:
I think maybe Edgar could have made the joke easier to spot. Many of the people I've shown Spaced to don't get that joke. Most of them don't actually. It's not that obvious that they've actually cleaned the place, though it's obviously clean if you look around. A few seconds more could have helped him clarify that the flat was now clean by... I dunno... putting in some close-ups of different parts of the flat and stuff. It's just a thing that's bothered me for some time, though not very much. It doesn't mean I don't like Spaced as much, just that I am awake enough to see that it's not without its faults.
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post Nov 19 2004, 09:22 PM
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Ok then, now that we got that established any1 got anythting else they'd like to point out that they think doesn't quite ring true in Spaced with out any fear of repurcussions from avid fans

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post Nov 19 2004, 09:48 PM
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Criticise Spaced and you lose your legs. That's all i'm saying.
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post Nov 19 2004, 09:56 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree. Like, if I were to comment on the joke in the second episode about the cleaning of the flat, there should be no problem.

Let me clarify:
I think maybe Edgar could have made the joke easier to spot. Many of the people I've shown Spaced to don't get that joke. Most of them don't actually. It's not that obvious that they've actually cleaned the place, though it's obviously clean if you look around. A few seconds more could have helped him clarify that the flat was now clean by... I dunno... putting in some close-ups of different parts of the flat and stuff. It's just a thing that's bothered me for some time, though not very much. It doesn't mean I don't like Spaced as much, just that I am awake enough to see that it's not without its faults.


it seems quite clear to me, ive never thought of that joke being hard to spot. i think the hoover in the middle of the room kinda sets the joke for me.
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post Nov 19 2004, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (Anti_God @ Nov 19 2004, 07:48 PM)
Because Spaced rocks! quite franky and u have to question the wisdom of criticising Spaced on a forum filled with dedicated dare i say fanatical fans smile.gif
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Fanatical to the point of blind adoration with no room for objectivity and independance of thought?

That's not good, surely?
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post Nov 20 2004, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (spacegurl @ Nov 19 2004, 11:56 PM)
it seems quite clear to me, ive never thought of that joke being hard to spot. i think the hoover in the middle of the room kinda sets the joke for me.
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Well, the thing is that you have to spot it. The slow tilt up is meant to reveal the cleaned flat, but it doesn't so much reveal as just display it. At least that's what I feel.
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post Nov 20 2004, 02:32 PM
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I know I shouldn't really post a mistake I've spotted as one of my first posts but:

How come in the first series Tim loves star wars and doesn't mention episode 1 yet in the second series he hates SW because of episode one. Now your going to tell me that it came out during the break when Daisy was away but in the 1st episode of series 2 Tim says that they've been living there for about a year then later she points out that episode 1 was 18 months ago, thats more than a year so it would have happened during or before the first series? hmmm....
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post Nov 20 2004, 04:58 PM
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Criticise Spaced and you lose your legs. That's all i'm saying.
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Edgar's back on the forum, everybody!
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post Nov 20 2004, 05:26 PM
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Oh, that one's easy.

Clearly, series 1 and series 2 exist in parallel dimensions.

In series 1, The Phantom Menace was a raging success, gaining 2 more Oscars than The Godfather, ptII. Tim's faith in A Galaxy Far, Far Away is strengthed, and indeed, upon meeting George Lucas at a SciFiCon, the two experience love at first sight, and are married 3 months later in a lavish ceremony on Endor.

In series 2, however, The Phantom Menace is a farce, with the character of Jar-Jar Binks setting off a chain reaction deep within the tortured mind of Tim Bisley, a reaction that is brought to a head by the 732nd child asking for the Jar-Jar doll. The trail of death and destruction finally ends at a US airport, where a SWAT team manage to corner and then gun down the slavering monster.

Simple, really.
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post Nov 20 2004, 06:04 PM
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Totally. Spot on. My thoughts exactly.

I sometimes wonder who subtitled this thing, though, and whether this person has no knowledge of the newer Star Wars films at all and if he/she didn't recieve an actual script to use for the subtitles. I like watching even English-speaking shows and films with subtitles at least once to make sure I catch everything that is said. Especially with Spaced since the speech can sometimes be a bit muddled (I didn't notice the "No, thanks. Twelve's my limit" joke until I'd seen it several times, for example.) I like doing this. So, anyway, Tim talks with Bilbo about Jar Jar being bollocks when I read quite clearly on the subtitles "Ja Ja"! Ja Ja? What, now?

Of course, that's not an actual fault with the series, just a presumably drunk subtitler.
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post Nov 20 2004, 08:37 PM
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post Nov 21 2004, 01:04 PM
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Wow you all bring up very valid points there, but I will say the same to you as I do to people on my Buffy and Angel site, I watch it for escapism, and its made for entertainment. Im not bothered about small continuity errors or whatever I just like to let these talented people entertain me and let me forget for a while the shite which is reality. Also we all have to remember that Spaced was not made on a huge budget nor with unlimited time Im sure that these little things that you question or irritate you were done because of lack of funds or time to think them through, however if you step back and forgive them its an amazing series and to me the little mistakes just make me love it more. Bxxx
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post Nov 21 2004, 01:36 PM
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I never said any of this irritated me, and I don't QUESTION the show. From your post, one'd think we were saying it ruined the series for us. Personally, I find I am not truly at home with something unless I have realised that it's not infallible. Loving one's good traits is very easy, but loving someone's faults is all the more powerful.

I view Spaced as I view my girlfriend. We've been together for a bit over two years now. Lived together for nigh on one. I realise she's not perfect, but I don't care. I still love her. I still go to bed with her every night and look forward to every second I spend with her. Same thing with Spaced.
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