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post Mar 22 2005, 05:37 PM
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True. Anybody remember The Brighton Belles? We somehow managed to make an even shitter version of something that was shit to begin with.
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post Mar 22 2005, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (PrincessKate @ Mar 22 2005, 09:08 AM)
I saw the webcast and you're right-He's not humanising the character enough. However I did find some aspects funny, some of the jokes I actually laughed at. I think you really need to distance yourself from the original office, and also from the notion of it being a documentary-as that really doesn't come across in this version.

Also, the American Tim and Dawn are immensely unlikeable and there's no chemistry there at all.
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But if you distance yourself from it being a documentary (of sorts), what has it become? A parody?

I'll be curious to see whether people buy into the notion that this is a real office. Yes, it looks like one, but it doesn't "feel" like any office I've ever worked in. What charmed the American populace (at least, those who get BBC America) about the original is that, besides some regional humour that lost its relevance once it left your shores, it was exactly like what a good many of them have to put up with every day. Everyone has worked for a David Brent at least once in their lives; I'm not sure they've ever worked for a Michael Scott, though.

I didn't expect it to be a clone of the original, or even its identical twin, but I was at least hoping for the painful realism that made the original so damn funny. This has dropped that in favour of that wink-wink, nudge-nudge, aren't-we-clever style that I hate so much.
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post Mar 22 2005, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (Omniscia @ Mar 22 2005, 06:09 PM)
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That's exactly the part I was hoping it would lose. I know I'm alone on that but I'm more than happy for this to be something else. That's what makes it interesting to me. If you're going to remake something but can't make it better then you have to make it diffferent, aim it at a different audience.
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post Mar 22 2005, 06:23 PM
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Well, to its credit, it's instantly better than anything else on NBC right now. Except maybe Law & Order.
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post Mar 22 2005, 06:26 PM
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I know the show won't be judged on its own merits and comparisons are impossible to avoid but as long as it's funny it's doing its job isn't it?

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post Mar 22 2005, 06:29 PM
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Yes. That's I will reserve final judgement until next week, or whenever they air episode two, since everything after the premier will be an original storyline.

As it stands, though, I only laughed once during the first episode.
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post Mar 28 2005, 11:07 AM
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I don't see how this can be judged on it's own merits... The Office is an Emmy Winning show that did not need to be remade. It was fine as it was and I just see it as another attempt by the American media to cash in on British creativity...

And the remakes of Men Behaving Badly, Coupling and Fawlty Towers fell flat on their respective asses!

However, if the yanks can do it, why not the Brits... I want to see remakes of Knight Rider and The A-Team, done Brit style...
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post Mar 28 2005, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (Svein @ Mar 28 2005, 12:07 PM)
The Office is an Emmy Winning show that did not need to be remade.
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I don't think it's a question of need.
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post Mar 28 2005, 03:25 PM
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Well, it's a question of something...

I've not seen a positive review on IMDB.
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post Mar 28 2005, 05:59 PM
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I've seen very little British comedy in the States... except for the stuff they show on BBCA which is cable/satellite only. Americans tend to shun anything that isn't actually made in America. It's not just a British thing... they've just remade Taxi for example. Happy as we are to watch American stuff, the feeling isn't mutual. When I've spoken to Americans about British comedy I get responses like "oh man I love that show Absolutely Fabulous - that's so funny" and I realise that subtle humour (so abundant in the Office) is lost over here. There's so much TV you have to shout to be heard, and the Office doesn't shout. I guess the remake is to make it louder and more obvious humour-wise... but that just destroys everything that the Office was.
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post Mar 28 2005, 06:25 PM
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It will be interesting to see how they handle the American adaptation of "According to Bex." Can it possibly get any worse?
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post Mar 29 2005, 12:34 AM
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Just watched it. Don't really know what to say. Laughed once (I wonder if it was the same bit Omnicia laughed at) and I didn't cringe once. Most of the performances seemed pretty lacklustre, like the actors knew they were in something crap, and so couldn't be bothered making an effort. The only emotion it stirred in me was boredom.
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post Mar 29 2005, 11:25 AM
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Strangely I've read nothng but positive reviews - from newspapers etc.
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post Mar 30 2005, 05:19 PM
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Transferring Comedy Over The Pond
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post Mar 30 2005, 05:24 PM
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I watched this last night. You know, it wasn't as bad as I was expecting.
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