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You going to watch it tonight?
You going to watch it tonight?
Absolutely... I love Comic Relief [ 19 ] ** [40.43%]
Yes... But only to see if my fave Spaced/SotD celeb is on [ 8 ] ** [17.02%]
Probably... I'll at least check it out [ 7 ] ** [14.89%]
Probably not... not my cup of tea [ 6 ] ** [12.77%]
Absolutely not... Can't stand this shit [ 7 ] ** [14.89%]
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post Mar 12 2005, 07:02 AM
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QUOTE (innercitysumo @ Mar 12 2005, 12:22 AM)
But wasn't it a mock interview with Catherine Tate as the 'Pikey' girl?
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post Mar 12 2005, 10:13 AM
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she was so funny...reminded me of a thousand girls who went to my school.

as for the charity aspect, one of the reasons i like comic relief is that it doesn't just hand out food and medicines. it sets up local schemes, where the people in the community can help to build their lives back up. it creates a sustained level of self-sufficiency and will hopefully change things permanently. but i also agree with starscream in that only the cancellation of third world debt and increased emphasis on fair trade will make a more global change.
but it doesn't mean you can't start by helping one person.
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post Mar 12 2005, 12:19 PM
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Graham Norton... sigh.
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post Mar 12 2005, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (pots @ Mar 12 2005, 01:54 AM)
the scottish girl in green wing is really funny - she was great in book club too. what else has she been in?
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post Mar 12 2005, 02:13 PM
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post Mar 12 2005, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE ("WiseJoeyD")
....my view is that I didn't know the British caused AIDS or created the guerrila wars and dictators taht've plagued Africa..but then I'm pretty stupid.


Well, actually, it is the fault of many western nations, when we gave the countries independence, thats where most of the problems come from.

We made the borders along our own borders, of which had been conquered by the original nation (UK, France, Holland etc), thus meaning, that ancient tribal borders were being ignored, and tribes were spread out in different countries, and split up.

This is the same as what happend in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. We ignored the ancient borders, and set it up ourselves, not listening to the people. This is one of the major contributors to the Pakistani-Indian war, and now, agitation.

Also, it is also our fault, because we exploited them, through us having an empire there, and exploiting the indigenous black people, the actual blacks were very poor, and lived under apartheids, e.g. South Africa. This lead to the massacare of one of the type of people in Rwanda (I cant remember the name of them now), and this was because, this tribe was given more important jobs than the rest of the tribes in former Rwanda, during the Empires, this made them more equal and more important than the rest of Rwandian blacks. Thus, the government caused agitation after the fall of the empires, and Rwanda was given independence, and brought up the old hatred of that tribe, and led to the massacre of them.

Also, the fact that they were exploited by us, and are now poor as a result, means that when in dire need, people turn to a strong government - dictatorship. But, also, factions rise in nations, to try and have power, which will make them richer, and have a higher chance of survival, than the rest of the population that is starving.

Agreed, much of the causes of this are our ancestors fault, not ours, but, Capitalism keeps them poor, and so, we are all equally to blame for the poverty there, because we all have an effect on our economy, which in turn has an effect on the global economy. Capitalism needs exploitation in order to survive, and the people that will bear the brunt of that exploitation, are the poor. Capitalism cannot get people out of poverty.

This has all led to the situation in Africa today, charity can help, but, it cannot get people out of poverty, on a nation scale. Sure, its easy to get a few thousand out, even hundreds of thousand, but, they will all slip and fall back into the hole of poverty, as they will still be the poorest people, maybe not as poor as they were, but on a global scale, are still the ones that will be the most exploited by Capitalism, and thus, as long as Capitalism is there, poverty will be there.

Charity is therefore the least that you can do, to try and help out sort out the mess of your ancestors, but more importantly - To help relieve human sufferering. You cannot choose where you are born, or who your parents are, it is stupid and ignorant to be a nationalist. Sure, your thinking on a bigger scale than just living in a hole, where its just your family and freinds, but, where has human decency gone? The strongest thing that binds us, is not our borders, its is that little part of our DNA which makes us human. We all live in the world, all life feels pain. Would you rather them suffer, while you have more than enough? Greed is what causes segregation, agitation, which leads to violence. Sure, Capitalism is nice for those who are the haves, but it completely destroys the havents.
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post Mar 12 2005, 03:38 PM
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Well we've tried communism, feudalism ,national socialism and monarchism. They were all crap . Of course Capitalist society has its problems but at least you don't need a Secret Police to run it, you get to choose your own leaders or even become one yourself if you so desire and you also get the latest in consumer electronics. And no twelve page monologues will persuade me otherwise. So there. tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2005, 04:17 PM
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none of them im getting pissed
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post Mar 12 2005, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (ronlogan1977 @ Mar 12 2005, 03:38 PM)
Of course Capitalist society has its problems but at least you don't need a Secret Police to run it
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post Mar 12 2005, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE (Simsydav @ Mar 12 2005, 03:16 PM)
where has human decency gone?
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It was never there, there`s never been such a thing as human decency. Laws and morals are not there to protect people, they`re there to protect property.
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post Mar 12 2005, 07:55 PM
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I really wish my vhs hadnt stopped recording two minutes into "When Johnny Met Keira"... sigh.
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post Mar 12 2005, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 12 2005, 06:49 PM)
It was never there, there`s never been such a thing as human decency.
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If you see an old lady fall over in the street, do you go to help her?

That's human decency.
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post Mar 13 2005, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE (Ingram @ Mar 12 2005, 07:55 PM)
I really wish my vhs hadnt stopped recording two minutes into "When Johnny Met Keira"... sigh.
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Some kind hearted soul at KeiraWeb.com uploaded all of the Keira talking bits into .wmv. Lovely. Now that is dedication!
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post Mar 13 2005, 11:06 AM
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Bless.
But she has a really annoying horsey voice...
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post Mar 13 2005, 02:38 PM
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With a face like that... she can sound however she likes smile.gif
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