Nice rack, D.



Innnnnnteresting:

as far as i'm aware, that's been the situation for a number of years. i'm not sure these will ever see the light of day...

I got bored of waiting for Season 2 to come out to buy, so thanks to the wonders of the Internet and torrent sites, I downloaded it. Only took 1 month(!) But it was worth the wait. I've always loved Twin Peaks but haven't seen it since it's original UK broadcast, so I wasn't sure whether it was good as my then ten year old mind thought it was. The answer's yes and no. Somethings are better now I have more understanding as to what was happening and why. There were some bits that I forgotten about and wished that I still could forget them. The problem was the should have ended Season 1 further down the line with the revealing and "death" of Laura's killer. Then used Season 2 to build up Windham Earle through to it's gut wrenching finale. There were threads that were just not needed. Little Nicky? Have a grenade! James and Evelyn? Bleuuurgh. Jocie's soul being absorbed into a cupboard...Interesting...if they actually did something with it! It lost its way for a fair few episodes before getting back on track when Earle arrived. Still a great series and its saddening that Lynch didn't get to finish it how he wanted.

Now those are some nice twin peaks.

The pilot is on Chiller (NBCUni's horror/thriller channel on satellite) at the moment. Made me want to try something...



...five miles south of the Canadian border, twelve miles west of the state line.

*gurgle* *burble* *GAH*

I just received the Gold Box from Paramount. Something bad is going to happen soon as a result of all this ridiculous DVD karma this week.

I've popped in the bonus disc at work and am watching bits of the sit-down with Lynch, Amick, MacLachlan and DL's post-production coordinator. I've determined that Kyle now looks like Dale Cooper's older, longer-haired, glasses-and-jumper-wearing brother who teaches literature at some midwest university and has affairs with his female students.

What? It's my fantasy, get out.

Am I the only one kicking this thread around still?

Been watching the bonus disc in the Gold Box tonight; FANTASTIC. The "A Slice of Lynch" feature, which is the only thing David Lynch would shoot, is still pretty superb (see above); and the feature-lengthy documentary is outstanding. Loads of Mark Frost interview segments, and he's the guy I've wanted to hear from all along. (Obviously Lynch gets the lion's share of credit, and though the series unmistakably has his touch, it's every bit Frost's baby too.) There's also some interesting revelations considering I thought I knew everything about this show

- During the second season, the writers did seriously consider having Cooper consummate his attraction to Audrey Horne at one point. There's a bit of judicious side-stepping from Frost, and then it's gradually unraveled by others to point toward Kyle MacLachlan being the one who put the kibbosh on the idea. (He indicates he just didn't think it was right, that since she was still in high school that Cooper wouldn't go there. I have to say I agree with him; it's a lovely, lost romance but seeing as how Cooper had already been burned by tasting forbidden fruit once when he nailed Windom Earle's wife, no matter how egged on he would be by his emotions I can't see him making the same mistake twice.)

- The much-speculated idea that the bonkers cliffhanger nature of the finale was a middle finger to the network is sort of obliterated; as is usually the case with these things, it only takes the horse's mouth to settle it. Mark Frost talks about how toward the end of season two, while he and Lynch were both finishing up films that they really wanted to get back on the wagon and bring the show back to its origins - more unsettling, less absurd - and abandon the tangential plot strands that were frustrating everyone, audience and cast and crew alike. So they had begun to sketch out season three and the anchor point that they wanted to use was having Cooper become possessed so they could really go dark and examine what it would be like to have the hero also be the villain, this impossibly upstanding man battling evil within himself. The other cliffhangers were basically an expansion on what they did at the end of season one with Cooper being shot, the mill burning, etc. But by the time the episode was put into production, they already knew it would in fact be the end. *sigh* Damn. A relief to know that much of my bitterness has been misplaced, though. Heh.


Ed, if you still want me to pick up the box for you, just holler. It's so worth it.

I'm working my way through Season 2, finally, and I've just got to the episode where BOB/Leland kills Maddy. Fuck me but that is some scary stuff. The sequence is so protracted and nightmarish, even without seeing the credits you could tell that it was one of Lynch and Frost's all too infrequent additions to the second season.

I'm hoping the box set will come out on Region 2, I got season 1 to watch while I was off work sick for a month a couple of years back, I then made my brother download the rest. It's such a fantastic show.

Argh! I'm also working my way through Season 2, and haven't gotten to that point yet! That'll teach me to read spoilers...

I could hardly bear to take a break from watching. Finally cracked open the Gold Box last night, and have been in front of the television ever since, save for sleep.

Best not read the top of the page, then. Sorry 'bout that, boys.

I'll not read this thread again until I'm through with the show!

So I take it there's still no word on a region 2 release yet?

Okay, I'm done, now, and I'm not sure I have anything to say beyond "What the hell?"

Great stuff, and I suppose it would be wrong of me to expect any sort of resolution, but it just seems incomplete.

I thought so, too, for many years.

Watch the documentary on disc ten, though; Mark Frost explains a bit why it ends the way it does. It's frustrating as hell.

Ten!?

I thought Season 2 was six discs??

It is, but Nic has got the Gold Box edition which contains both seasons and a shitload of extras.

Oh my.

That sounds like a wonderful thing to splurge a portion of my student loan on. I shall investigate.

Oh, it is. And the exchange rate is favourable for such splurging at the moment.

Unfortunately, it doesn't go both ways...

It's a great set, though. Excellent picture and audio, and it doesn't skimp on content.

I'm going to have to buy the Gold Box Set aren't I? Maybe I'll buy it in April then I can watch it in the week I've just booked off work.

Has anyone got the Gold Boxset of this? Is it much different to what's on the series 2 DVD box set? I've got series one already but I'm too impatient to wait for series 2 to come out in the UK.

There's quite a lot different between the two, mainly in terms of extras.

DVDCompare.net can sort it out for you.

My Gold Box didn't include the postcards, though... Just an advert for David Lynch's signature coffee.

Think I'll ask for the Gold Set for my birthday but keep my copy of series 1.

Twin Peaks to return on the internet?

I'm not entirely certain that this will ever come to pass, but even if it did, the lack of Lynch could be a major problem. Having watched Season 2 recently, I think that there is a clear correlation between his involvement in the show and its quality; Season 1 and the start and end of Season 2 were brilliant, the middle of Season 2, when he went off to do other things, became really saggy and aimless.

I reckon Coop could do an admirable job. I'm sorely tempted to get my brother to pick me up the gold edition on his next trip to the US.

I'm sure it would be perfectly fine, but if they were to bring it back I'd want some sort of resolution, or at least some continuation, of what went before and I think Mark Frost and David Lynch would be the ones to provide that.

Maybe I misread it, I thought he was planning on tying it up using the webisodes, I take the point about Lynch and Frost being involved but if they're not interested then there's nothing to lose really.

Season 2 DVD release - March 22, 2010.

Should make some people happy!

Raayy!!

Brilliant news. I haven't been able to watch my Region 1 since I moved.

Not only that, but there's the Definitive Gold Edition getting a UK release too: Play.com

Hurrah!

How Twin Peaks changed television It's interesting hearing first hand accounts about how David Lynch works.

Bought the Gold Box the other day. First time I've ever seen the international version of the pilot. Just wish I had waited til after I had rewatched the whole series before watching it.

Is the international version the one that was released with season 1?

I'm not sure. The Gold Box has both the original pilot and the international version. The international has a different ending where they find Bob in the hospital basement and kill him and then it jumps to Cooper's dream in the Black Lodge with Laura and the midget. This pretty much solved the murder this way in case the show was never taken up.

Looking into it I've seen the feature length version, rather than the international one. I got confused because the feature length pilot was only included on the international release of the DVD, it wasn't on the one released in the US.

Watched all episodes now, and you could probably learn everything you need to make a television show by watching this. What to do and what to very much not do. The episodes between the death of Leland Palmer and the introduction of Wyndham Earl are a real slog with very little of merit other than David Duchovny. It does pick up again after that but like so many people have said, the show was pretty much killed off once Laura Palmer's murder was dealt with, especially as so many of the cast were effectively made irrelevant yet still needed stories that didn't go anywhere or have anything to do with anything just to keep them in the show. Here you can really feel the meddling of the execs with plots designed to appeal to the fans of certain characters, mostly awful. Even with Lynch's return towards the end it was never the same as it was, although I did like the way they just put an end to some stupid plots and even reversed them in the final episode. It's a shame because at its best it was simply sublime.

David Lynch is now my favourite actor.