Jessopjessopjessop
Jun 2 2009, 03:46 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Jun 2 2009, 03:46 PM)

Finished The Scar by China Mieville
Mieville proves once again that he is one of the great contemporary writers of sci-fi. His complex and complicated worlds are a joy to dip into and he uses them to explore deeper, richer themes of existence, government and nationality whilst still managing to give the reader plenty of action, sex and excitement. Brilliant.
Agreed. Perdido and The Scar are quite a pair. I still have dreams about the ability to slide through reality that the little statue gives. I wouldn't recommend Iron Council however, it was dull as fuck.
maian
Jun 2 2009, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Jun 2 2009, 04:46 PM)

Agreed. Perdido and The Scar are quite a pair. I still have dreams about the ability to slide through reality that the little statue gives. I wouldn't recommend Iron Council however, it was dull as fuck.
Well, it's already on my shelves so I'll have to give it a bash. I wasn't expecting it to match either of the previous books, though. That would be a very tall order.
His new one, The City and the City, sounds really good.
Sir_Robin_the_brave
Jun 2 2009, 04:13 PM
Just finished The Damned United by David Peace. A smashing bit of fact-with-a-lot-of-fiction weaving and tons of swears. One of the best football books I have read (though I'll admit this is a small list)
I think I might move onto the Red Riding Quartet next.
sweetbutinsane
Jun 2 2009, 07:12 PM
I finally got around to reading to reading A Wizard of Earthsea and The Tombs of Atuan over half term. I really enjoyed them (especially The Tombs of Atuan) and would be reading The Farthest Shore right now if it wasn't for stupid exams.
QUOTE (Ade @ Aug 20 2008, 01:39 AM)

Almost a quarter of the way through The End Of Mr. Y by Scarlett Thomas, and thoroughly hooked. Its various themes include homeopathy, theology, language and thought, plus quantum theory, and various other levels of physics that I don't fully understand. Oh, and a smattering of sex... it's all rather absorbing to say the least. I'll report back with a full verdict once I've finished it.
Finally finished. It was pretty darn good, I liked it.
Since it was recommended to me as a fan of Jasper Fforde, I've now started reading this:

Pulp detective noir satire based in Wales, funnily enough. Seems quite promising so far. I'm already looking forward to the other books in the series,
Last Tango In Aberystwyth,
The Unbearable Lightness Of Being In Aberystwyth and
Don't Cry For Me Aberystwyth, if only for their titles. Be sure to tune in in January for my pre-requisite
"I thoroughly enjoyed it" review.
logger
Jun 3 2009, 01:01 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Apr 29 2009, 12:14 AM)

Moby Dick
I keep meaning to read this. Must remember to have a look in the library next time I'm near it.
maian
Jun 6 2009, 01:12 PM
Crash by J.G. Ballard
I wish that I'd read this before seeing the film since my image of the characters and the events was completely shaped by it. Other than that, I thought that it was a genuinely disturbing look at the possibilities of technology and sexuality and their, quite literal, collision. Ballard's depiction of sex is very clinical and makes the acts seem fairly mechanical, which I suppose is the point.
Leg-fucking good.
Sostie
Jun 9 2009, 12:26 PM
Just bought The England's Dreaming Tapes by Jon Savage. Can't wait to dive into that hefty tome.
Shack
Jun 13 2009, 07:38 PM
The Lust Lizard of Melancholy Cove - Christopher Moore
Thoroughly enjoyable. Can't wait for my next Moore.
Although now I'm reading one by Carlos Ruiz Jafon.
Thank you Craig!
Julie
Jun 13 2009, 09:06 PM
QUOTE (Shack @ Jun 13 2009, 03:38 PM)

The Lust Lizard of Melancholy Cove - Christopher Moore
Thoroughly enjoyable. Can't wait for my next Moore.
Although now I'm reading one by Carlos Ruiz Jafon.
Thank you Craig!
The Shadow of the Wind?
Craig is a champion book-recommender.
Sir_Robin_the_brave
Jun 13 2009, 10:32 PM
About a hundred pages into JPod.
It's very quirky, even for a Coupland. Good so far though.
Julie
Jun 14 2009, 12:37 AM
QUOTE (Sir_Robin_the_brave @ Jun 13 2009, 06:32 PM)

About a hundred pages into JPod.
It's very quirky, even for a Coupland. Good so far though.
Yay! More Coupland!
Sir_Robin_the_brave
Jun 14 2009, 01:12 AM
QUOTE (Julie @ Jun 14 2009, 01:37 AM)

Yay! More Coupland!
I'd been meaning to read more Coupland for quite a while.
What should be next on the list?
whitey
Jun 14 2009, 02:06 AM
Born Standing Up by Steve Martin. What a miserable fucking book. Sorry you didn't enjoy yourself Steve. I fucking love stand up.
Julie
Jun 14 2009, 04:52 AM
QUOTE (Sir_Robin_the_brave @ Jun 13 2009, 09:12 PM)

I'd been meaning to read more Coupland for quite a while.
What should be next on the list?
What else have you read?
Shack
Jun 14 2009, 10:31 AM
QUOTE (Julie @ Jun 13 2009, 10:06 PM)

The Shadow of the Wind?
Craig is a champion book-recommender.
That's the one. Book and recommender. My only negative with "The Shadow of the Wind" is it's quite a big book to read in bed.
mcraigclark
Jun 14 2009, 12:22 PM
QUOTE (Shack @ Jun 14 2009, 06:31 AM)

My only negative with "The Shadow of the Wind" is it's quite a big book to read in bed.
I predict that will be your only negative.
I'm about 3/4 of the way through Zafon's new one, The Angel's Game. It's released on Tuesday, but don't go in expecting it to be like The Shadow of the Wind. The Angel's Game is good so far, but it is very, very dark.
Anyway, I'm glad you're liking the suggestions. More Moore is always a good thing.
Sir_Robin_the_brave
Jun 14 2009, 12:52 PM
QUOTE (Julie @ Jun 14 2009, 05:52 AM)

What else have you read?
Girlfriend in a Coma and Microserfs. I know that Generation X is well regarded but other than that I'm unsure of where to go next.
Julie
Jun 14 2009, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (Sir_Robin_the_brave @ Jun 14 2009, 08:52 AM)

Girlfriend in a Coma and Microserfs. I know that Generation X is well regarded but other than that I'm unsure of where to go next.
I'd say go with Hey Nostradamus next.
maian
Jun 14 2009, 01:43 PM
QUOTE (Julie @ Jun 13 2009, 10:06 PM)

The Shadow of the Wind?
Craig is a champion book-recommender.
QUOTE (Shack @ Jun 14 2009, 11:31 AM)

That's the one. Book and recommender. My only negative with "The Shadow of the Wind" is it's quite a big book to read in bed.
Just read up on this, sounds very good. I may have to check it out at some point.
Julie
Jun 14 2009, 01:55 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Jun 14 2009, 09:43 AM)

Just read up on this, sounds very good. I may have to check it out at some point.
I thought it was wonderful. I read it on vacation and the friend I was there with was a little frightened as every so often I would properly gasp in shock. It was a great read.
sweetbutinsane
Jun 14 2009, 07:21 PM
Angels and Demons
I wasn't really supposed to read anything during the exams, but I couldn't help myself.
I kept comparing it to the film and found several things that I'm annoyed the film left out and several things that I'm quite glad were left out.
Serafina_Pekkala
Jun 14 2009, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (sweetbutinsane @ Jun 14 2009, 08:21 PM)

Angels and Demons
I wasn't really supposed to read anything during the exams, but I couldn't help myself.
I kept comparing it to the film and found several things that I'm annoyed the film left out and several things that I'm quite glad were left out.
All I can think of is the Mark Kermode review that trashed the movie saying it basically involved "explaining the plot whilst running around".
Dan Brown probably has a big gold-plated room stuffed full of money and jewels (like Scrooge McDuck) in which he wanders around in a kaftan and rubs his body with various currencies and laughs about the stupidity of humanity whilst eating peeled grapes.
It sexier when I imagine the above with, say, Ralph Fiennes and just as equally true.
GundamGuy_UK
Jun 14 2009, 07:48 PM
I've read Angels and Demons and The DaVinci Code, but seen neither film. I intend to keep it that way.
I finally finished Guards! Guards! earlier, and I've moved on to Men at Arms now, which so far I'm enjoying more. Pratchett always seems to need a book or two to get into a new story arc.
maian
Jun 15 2009, 12:58 PM
Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy
My, my, but is this a violent book. I mean, just ludicrously so at times, which can only be expected from a story about scalp-hunters in 1840s Texas and Mexico, but it's underpinned by McCarthy's familiar bleakness. A violent and poetic book about the creation myths of America (violent 'heroes' in the form of the scalp-hunters), the revisionist school of thought (violent 'villainous' in the form of the Indians and Mexicans) and the nature of the country itself. Brilliant.
mcraigclark
Jun 16 2009, 01:34 AM
I think it's the most violent book I've ever read. Are you going to move on to All the Pretty Horses? It's beautiful, brutal, and tragic.
Zoe
Jun 16 2009, 06:39 AM
I think 'We need to talk about Kevin' is trying to annoy me now.
maian
Jun 16 2009, 10:31 AM
QUOTE (mcraigclark @ Jun 16 2009, 02:34 AM)

I think it's the most violent book I've ever read. Are you going to move on to All the Pretty Horses? It's beautiful, brutal, and tragic.
I've got Suttree lined up as my next McCarthy, then I'm going to take a crack at the whole of The Border Trilogy. Before that, though, I'm reading
Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut. I've just got to the point where he writes himself into the story, and the way he writes about his mother's suicide is quite disquieting.
mcraigclark
Jun 16 2009, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Jun 16 2009, 06:31 AM)

...I'm going to take a crack at the whole of The Border Trilogy.
You're going to be left with a very gritty, very lonely sense of the American Southwest after all this. It's totally worth it, though.
Sostie
Jun 19 2009, 01:13 PM
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies by Jane Austen & Seth Grahame-Smith
Better in theory than in execution. Jane Austen's novel with additional zombie/ninja action/background inserted. Not especially funny or exciting. If you've read the original novel don't bother. If you have no interest in reading the original, don't bother.
Jimmay
Jun 19 2009, 01:22 PM
Just hit the halfway point of The Road and part of me wants to stop reading it while its on an up so I don't have to end up putting it in the freezer.
widowspider
Jun 19 2009, 01:51 PM
It's an amazing book, Jimmay, but by gum it's bleak. Worth the read though.
I've been doing a lot of reading and studying about my buddhist practice recently - a little spiritual education. Some favourites that anyone (non-buddhists or buddhists) would find incredibly inspiring:
The Buddha Next Door and
One By One: The World is Yours to Change. Both amazing.
sweetbutinsane
Jun 21 2009, 06:54 PM
Retribution Falls by Chris Wooding.
I wasn't supposed to read this until after the exams had finished, but I couldn't resist it. Anyway, I just finished it this morning and I absolutely loved it. Such fun to read!
Jimmay
Jun 22 2009, 01:44 PM
QUOTE (Jimmay @ Jun 19 2009, 02:22 PM)

Just hit the halfway point of The Road and part of me wants to stop reading it while its on an up so I don't have to end up putting it in the freezer.
Finished it on Saturday. And its really rather good. It was strange, and I feel like a bit of an idiot saying this, but whenever I stopped reading it, part of me felt like they were just sitting there waiting for me to pick up the book again and they could carry on travelling. However,
it did sort of peter out a bit towards the end and it wasn't quite as devastating an ending as I had expected. I'm not really sure how I feel about how it ended really.
maian
Jun 25 2009, 02:07 AM
The Strain by Guillermo del Toro and Chuck Hogan
I read a review which described it as ''Richard Matheson meets Stephen King meets Michael Crichton'', and that's a pretty damn good summation of it. Del Toro and Hogan's vampire novel is a creepy and engrossing tale that treats vampirism as a disease that spreads from person to person, altering them so that they can spread and spread and spread. The meticulous descriptions of the effects of the virus and the way in which the authors apply scientific reasoning to myths of vampirism are reminiscent of I Am Legend, though theirs is a much less philosophical work and they are more concerned with the horror aspects of the story. My one complaint would be that there are a few too many sections detailing how people ''turn'', and this slows the middle of the book down noticeably and distract from the central human characters who find themselves caught up in fighting the epidemic. Other than that, it's very good and sets the scene for what promises to be a very interesting trilogy.
Julie
Jun 25 2009, 05:22 AM
I completely adored The Brief History of the Dead right up until the last two chapters. Then, I was really disappointed.
mcraigclark
Jun 25 2009, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Julie @ Jun 25 2009, 01:22 AM)

I completely adored The Brief History of the Dead right up until the last two chapters. Then, I was really disappointed.
Yes.
What the fuck was going on with those marbles? Seriously, what the fuck?I so wanted the book to end about 50 pages earlier, but I think the ending is more a bruise to the story rather than a fatal blow.
Edit: I only just saw Ed's blurb on The Strain. I pretty much feel the same about it. It reads very much like a screenplay in some parts, but I guess that's to be expected. I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.
Jessopjessopjessop
Jun 26 2009, 11:53 AM
Good news for Al Reynolds fans (there's at least two here!)... He has a £1m deal for another 10 books! Here's the reaction from his blog (some peeps may find this interesting from a writing point-of-view if you're not a fan):
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News of the ten book contract is out there now, so many thanks for the congratulations and good wishes I've received, and the many kind things I've seen here and there on the internet. As some have noted, while it's good for me - no bones about that - it also says something encouraging about the state of the genre. Far from dying on its feet (I've been reading obituaries for SF for about as long as I've been reading them about rock music) it's not doing at all badly, and may even be in the ascendant.
The contract doesn't change much as far as my writing habits are concerned. I've been hitting about a book a year since I started with Orion in 1999 - in fact we've done nine novels and three collections in ten years, or will have by the time the year's out - and all that's really required of me is to keep on the same level of productivity for another ten. It's not to be taken lightly, but at the same it's not too daunting. I've always wanted to be a prolific writer, and so a book a year feels about right to me. The idea of spending two or three years of my life on a single work fills me with existential dread, although that's purely a reflection on my own approach to the craft, which is very much a case of diving in and immersing myself in a book at a level which would almost certainly drive me insane if it lasted longer than six or nine months. To put it in rock terms, I'd rather be Neil Young than one of those artists who only releases work every three years or so. At that same time, I'm aware of the hazards of over-production: there are writers whose work I followed assiduously, until they gradually outstripped my capability to keep up. In many cases I simply stopped them reading them entirely. Obviously I'll be hoping that isn't the case with all my readers, but at the same time I'm mindful of the possibility. Above all else, I'll be working hard to improve my books and stretch my range, while at the same time hopefully delivering the kind of big SF kicks that I'm perhaps best known for. Sitting here now, I can honestly say that the last thing I feel is complacent or smug. Excited and apprehensive in equal measure is more like it - and acutely aware that I've been fortunate on many levels. For all its flaws, my first novel found a readership, and while it wasn't everyone's cup of tea - hell, I'm not even sure it would have been mine - REVELATION SPACE did get me off to a good start. I'm in no doubt that timing and marketing played a massive role in that, but what mattered was that it provided a foundation for the subsequent books. I'm also truly grateful that both my publisher and my readers (or enough of them, anyway) were happy to see me strike off into different fictional universes, be it the faux-1959 of CENTURY RAIN or the near-future spacefaring solar system of PUSHING ICE. I love doing the Revelation Space stories, but - gratifyingly - I've never felt like I was a prisoner of them. Maybe that's why I still like doing them.
I've been lucky in many other ways. I've worked with a supportive and understanding editor - the excellent Jo Fletcher - for all my novels to date, and my agent Robert Kirby has been a genuine star. But I've also had the benefit of a great family, a wonderful and supportive wife, and friends who've been there when I needed them. I had a great job at ESA which involved working with some truly smart people (people who made me realise that I'm actually a bit of a thicko on many levels), and for most of the last fifteen years I've had the financial security to be able to treat writing as a glorified hobby - something I'll do so long as it's fun/challenging/whatever. That's still pretty much my attitude: it almost never feels like a day job. I've also had the benefit in my adult years of stamina and good health - something you can never take for granted. Anyone with a passing knowledge of the current SF and fantasy scene will know of writers who are dealing with issues of personal health that would make almost all the usual writerly grievances - certainly any that I ever have to deal with - look very trivial indeed. So I'm not only lucky, but mindful that there are writers (and readers, for that matter) out there who'd love the certainty of ten years of life, let alone ten years of income. So yes, a very happy camper here.
And here's a self-narrated podcast of a new story for The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/audio/2009...les-short-story
Ade
Jun 26 2009, 02:31 PM
Cool. I'm fairly sure my brother leant me an Alastair Reynolds book after he'd read it, and I'm fairly sure it was 'Pushing Ice' - he gave it a pretty positive review as I recall.
I shall have to give it a whirl.
Jessopjessopjessop
Jun 26 2009, 03:23 PM
QUOTE (Ade @ Jun 26 2009, 03:31 PM)

Cool. I'm fairly sure my brother leant me an Alastair Reynolds book after he'd read it, and I'm fairly sure it was 'Pushing Ice' - he gave it a pretty positive review as I recall.
Oh, you should definitely read it. Pushing Ice is one of my favourites, and as a stand-alone, much easier to get into than his series. It has more accessible characters than some of his far-future stuff, and has a really cool sci-fi action movie feel (although than makes it sound awful, films like The Abyss were a touchstone for the book). If you like that I can recommend his others! He's pretty much my favourite SF author.
Ade
Jun 26 2009, 11:22 PM
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Jun 26 2009, 04:23 PM)

Oh, you should definitely read it. Pushing Ice is one of my favourites, and as a stand-alone, much easier to get into than his series. It has more accessible characters than some of his far-future stuff, and has a really cool sci-fi action movie feel (although than makes it sound awful, films like The Abyss were a touchstone for the book). If you like that I can recommend his others! He's pretty much my favourite SF author.
Wicked good marvellous, cheers for the recommend.
I've just this second found the book, and it is indeed 'Pushing Ice'. Think I might make a start on it tomorrow, instead of the Malcolm Pryce book I've been struggling to get into for the past several weeks.
Shack
Jun 29 2009, 10:47 PM
The Shadow of the Wind
Another one to thank Craig for. A well thought out and structured book with plenty to keep you guessing, as well as some things that seemed a little less surprising.
I think my favourite section was the big reveal towards the end where we read the notes written by Nuria .
My only grumble was that I thought more could have been made of Daniel's father.
I nearly bought the new book on Saturday but thought better of it.
Now reading..... Lamb - By Christopher Moore.
Julie
Jun 30 2009, 06:48 AM
QUOTE (Shack @ Jun 29 2009, 06:47 PM)

Now reading..... Lamb - By Christopher Moore.
YES!
Jimmay
Jun 30 2009, 08:29 AM
QUOTE (Shack @ Jun 29 2009, 11:47 PM)

The Shadow of the Wind
Another one to thank Craig for. A well thought out and structured book with plenty to keep you guessing, as well as some things that seemed a little less surprising.
I think my favourite section was the big reveal towards the end where we read the notes written by Nuria .
My only grumble was that I thought more could have been made of Daniel's father.
I nearly bought the new book on Saturday but thought better of it.
Now reading..... Lamb - By Christopher Moore.
Is that the one set in Barcelona about the book? If so its an amazing book. I loved it (although as you can tell its been a while since I read it.) I fancy reading An Interpretation of Murder, but only because the cover of the book looks like Shadow of the Wind.
If its a different book though then please ignore this post.
PrincessKate
Jun 30 2009, 08:50 AM
I finished The Amethysts by Frank Delaney a couple of weeks ago, on the recommendation of a friend who bought me a second hand copy for Christmas as it's currently out of print.
It was brilliant, pretty uncomfortable all the way through (as the subject matter lurches from murder to infidelity to the holocaust and medical child abuse), but really really gripping.
As book reviews go, this is undoubtedly shit, but honestly, the book is good. Very long, but it goes quickly.
Shack
Jun 30 2009, 03:36 PM
QUOTE (Jimmay @ Jun 30 2009, 09:29 AM)

Is that the one set in Barcelona about the book? If so its an amazing book. I loved it (although as you can tell its been a while since I read it.) I fancy reading An Interpretation of Murder, but only because the cover of the book looks like Shadow of the Wind.
If its a different book though then please ignore this post.
Bing! You are correct. It is the one set in Barcelona about a book.
sweetbutinsane
Jun 30 2009, 06:36 PM
I'm currently reading The Angel's Game, which is by the same author, and I absolutely adore it so far. I think it's a prequel to The Shadow of the Wind.
mcraigclark
Jun 30 2009, 11:09 PM
QUOTE (sweetbutinsane @ Jun 30 2009, 02:36 PM)

I'm currently reading The Angel's Game, which is by the same author, and I absolutely adore it so far. I think it's a prequel to The Shadow of the Wind.
Well, maybe not a prequel per se. Zafon intends to write two more novels that will also be interconnected to SOTW and TAG. He says they will be able to read in any order without affecting the reader's enjoyment, but that seems like a tall order to me. TAG has a very different tone than SOTW.
curtinparloe
Jul 1 2009, 12:17 AM
Recently finished The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists. Heavy going.
I'm reading Secret Classrooms: An Untold Story of the Cold War. Much easier to read.
maian
Jul 1 2009, 09:31 PM
The New York Trilogy by Paul Auster
A series of three novellas which are thematically interconnected; a detective is hired to watch his client's elderly father, recently released from prison; another detective is hired to spy on a man who does little other than sit in his room and write; a writer discovers that a childhood friend has disappeared and left behind a plethora of brilliant novels, plays and poems.
Auster uses the noir trappings of his stories to explore ideas of language, identity and existence using a mixture of metafiction (a version of himself appears in the first story, City of Glass), anecdotes about historical figures and mediations of the works of famous American writers. All three stories are wonderfully philosophical and engrossing on their own, but collectively they represent a comprise an absurdist delight that reminded me very much of the work of Haruki Murakami.
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