Zoe
Aug 29 2007, 03:39 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Aug 29 2007, 04:35 PM)
Finished
The Child In Time by Ian McEwan yesterday. Wonderful book which was spellbinding from the very beginning. Much more experimental than the other books of his that I have read and all the better for it. I really loved it.
It's the best.
I have finished 'Bad Blood' by Lorna Sage and am now reading 'On Writing' by Stephen (Stevie) King. It's possibly the most entertaining thing I've read since, 'Which Lie did I Tell' by William Goldman. The autobiographical sections are fascinating and funny, the advice on writing invaluable.
"To write adverbs is human, to write
he said or
she said is divine"
Take note Ms Rowling.
maian
Aug 29 2007, 03:40 PM
King has the best Rowling quote ever. It's something like ''She never met a superlative she didn't like''. Terrifically accurate appraisal of her style.
Zoe
Aug 29 2007, 03:52 PM
He said cuttingly.
Chapman Baxter
Aug 29 2007, 04:14 PM
He opined scathingly.
Jessopjessopjessop
Aug 29 2007, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (Jubei @ Aug 8 2007, 10:28 AM)
I've bought it but haven't started reading in earnest. I'm finishing
World War Z first.
QUOTE (maian @ Aug 22 2007, 11:57 PM)
He disagrees with everyone, though.
No I don't.
I just think the
Night's Dawn Trilogy is more original, and despite the dull-in-places second book, keeps the attention more than a be-afroed scientist walking around for 600 pages.
maian
Aug 29 2007, 04:37 PM
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Aug 29 2007, 05:30 PM)
keeps the attention more than a be-afroed scientist walking around for 600 pages.
This description has just sold this to me. You're your own worst enemy, Davison.
Jessopjessopjessop
Aug 29 2007, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Aug 29 2007, 05:37 PM)
This description has just sold this to me. You're your own worst enemy, Davison.
I just knew you'd say that. It's reverse psychology, they're actually my favourite books.
Ahhhhhh...
maian
Aug 29 2007, 08:26 PM
In that case I won't buy them.
Wait...
NiteFall
Aug 29 2007, 11:52 PM
I was half expecting Adam to be totally contrary and go for the Mindstar trilogy.
Zoe
Aug 30 2007, 01:09 AM
QUOTE (Chapman Baxter @ Aug 29 2007, 05:14 PM)
That's hot.
GundamGuy_UK
Sep 1 2007, 12:50 AM
Just finished The Da Vinci Code, which was an entertaining read.
Now planning to read The Sword in the Stone, a book I must have had on my shelf for over 10 years and not read. It's one of my favourite Disney films, so as a child whenever I started reading it and found it not like the film, I just gave up after a few chapters.
I'm hoping now I'm older I'll be able to sit through it, it's only 300 pages after all.
Sean of the Dead
Sep 1 2007, 08:19 AM
I finished reading The Catcher In The Rye, and I quite liked it. While it feels a tad dated, particularly the language, the themes from the book are as current today as they were when the book was written. Holden himself is a very entertaining character to read (if a bit of a dick), and I'm glad it ended on an almost anticlimactic note.
I've now started reading Atonement by Ian McEwan, and I think it's brilliant so far.
I had no idea Penguin were doing this, so imagine my delight when Alyssa bought me this!

My favourite book, in the classic Penguin paperback style! There are going to be 36 'Penguin Celebrations', representing the best books published in recent years.



It's so beautiful and my third copy of 'What a Carve Up!', every edition so far... I might keep up with that.
Starscream`s Ghost
Sep 1 2007, 10:12 PM
They are bloody nice. I'll have to keep my eye out for any books I might want in that style.
sleeping_pirate
Sep 1 2007, 10:41 PM
Currently reading The Book Of Lost Things by John Connolly. A beautiful read so far. Quite disturbing in many parts, like a very twisted fairytale. Very, very well written.
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Sep 1 2007, 11:12 PM)
They are bloody nice. I'll have to keep my eye out for any books I might want in that style.
The full list of the 36 'Penguin Celebrations' titles are:
New fiction (orange)
Any Human Heart; What A Carve Up!; Everything is Illuminated; Notes on a Scandal; How To Be Good; The Other Side of the Story; English Passengers; The Impressionist; A Short History of Tractors in Ukrainian; How I Live Now; The Accidental; White Teeth; Adrian Mole and the Weapons of Mass Destruction; Regeneration
Essays (purple)
The Consolations of Philosophy; The World According to Clarkson; Letter from America
Science and non-fiction (light blue)
Hegemony or Survival; The Revenge of Gaia; Empire; The Classical World; Blink; The Fabric of the Cosmos; Freakonomics; Fast Food Nation
Mystery and crime (green)
The Secret History; A Certain Justice; Rumpole and the Penge Bungalow Murders; The Beach; The Chimney Sweeper's Boy
Adventure and travel (pink)
The Shadow of the Sun; Congo Journey; Dark Star Safari
Biography and travel (dark blue)
Leonardo da Vinci; Jane Austen; The English
They're on 3 for 2 at Waterstones I believe.
Starscream`s Ghost
Sep 1 2007, 11:37 PM
Hmmm. A few to be going on there with. Certainly the Clarkson and Rumpole are tempting.
maian
Sep 2 2007, 11:13 AM
QUOTE (sleeping_pirate @ Sep 1 2007, 11:41 PM)
Currently reading
The Book Of Lost Things by John Connolly. A beautiful read so far. Quite disturbing in many parts, like a very twisted fairytale. Very, very well written.
Most fairytales are pretty twisted in the first place, though. The early German versions of Cinderella are quite horrific.
Ingram
Sep 2 2007, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (Zoe @ Sep 2 2007, 12:35 AM)
The full list of the 36 'Penguin Celebrations'
My bank balance is not going to thank you for that Zoz.
Oh dear, so tempted.
ipse dixit
Sep 3 2007, 08:31 AM
QUOTE (Zoe @ Sep 1 2007, 11:35 PM)
New fiction (orange)
Regeneration
As in Pat Barker? Ugh. Did that for A level.
Jubei
Sep 3 2007, 09:26 AM
QUOTE (curtinparloe @ Aug 24 2007, 08:08 PM)
Yeah, them's the ones: Autumn Twilight, Winter Night, and Spring Dawning. At the same jumble sale they had loads of Dragonlance sets.
It's probably a little early to tell, but it seems a little corporate-written so far.
Isn't it based on their role playing game sessions, and very formulaic. Apparently, they relaxed the formula afterwards (so sayeth wikipedia). A bit like Feist, but started bad and got good, rather than started good, got shit.
Andy JJJ, why haven't you read The Dreaming Void yet? Get on it.
Sostie
Sep 3 2007, 05:06 PM
Started Atonement at the weekend. About halfway through. Just got off the train and had to stop reading...just as they returned from the search for the twins. I''m bally well hooked.
maian
Sep 3 2007, 05:10 PM
I finished The Maltese Falcon yesterday. Pulp writing at it's very finest with a superbly crafted story, great characters and dialogiue. It was also interesting to see how much the Sam Spade character was cleaned up for the film version, on account of the Hays Code, which made him all the more compelling.
I've now started Only Forward by Michael Marshall Smith.
GundamGuy_UK
Sep 3 2007, 07:03 PM
My Grandpa visited at the weekend and got me 3 compilation books of short science fiction stories. These were The Mammoth Book of Golden Age Science Fiction: Ten Classic Stories from the Birth of Modern Science Fiction, Science Fiction: The Best of the Year 2007, and Best New SF 19. All together that's a huge number of stories, so I won't list them all here. It's a lot of nice stuff to work through though.
He also lent (and I read and returned same day) me a 100 page short story called The Dechronization of Sam Magruder, a story about a man sent back in time to the time of the dinosaurs, who carves a diary on stone tablets which are then found in the 22nd Century. The book is his diary, along with some discussion from the panel of people getting ready to edit them into a book and reveal their discovery to the world. It's very interesting, but also near impossible to come across as it was only ever printed in a short amount.
EDIT: I'll also mention that Kevin Smith's new book, My Boring-Ass Life, comes out on the 25th.
widowspider
Sep 5 2007, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (Zoe @ Sep 1 2007, 09:24 PM)
I had no idea Penguin were doing this, so imagine my delight when Alyssa bought me this!

My favourite book, in the classic Penguin paperback style! There are going to be 36 'Penguin Celebrations', representing the best books published in recent years.



It's so beautiful and my third copy of 'What a Carve Up!', every edition so far... I might keep up with that.
Oooh! How lovely. I know what I want for my birthday this year.
Ingram
Sep 5 2007, 09:13 PM
QUOTE (widowspider @ Sep 5 2007, 10:01 PM)
Oooh! How lovely. I know what I want for my birthday this year.
I think I read somewhere that they will be discontinuing them after Christmas, so a December birthday might be the ideal opportunity to get the last few.
rebelstar
Sep 6 2007, 09:18 AM
QUOTE (maian @ Sep 3 2007, 06:10 PM)
I've now started
Only Forward by Michael Marshall Smith.
Good choice - have you read any of his other stuff?
Recently finished Alastair Reymolds'
Chasm City which was superb, and I'm currently reading
Market Forces by Richard Morgan which isn't up to the same standard, but it's certainly a page turner.
Jubei
Sep 6 2007, 09:20 AM
QUOTE (rebelstar @ Sep 6 2007, 10:18 AM)
currently reading
Market Forces by Richard Morgan which isn't up to the same standard, but it's certainly a page turner.
Never managed to finish that one, it just didn't interest me like his other books have.
maian
Sep 6 2007, 09:22 AM
QUOTE (rebelstar @ Sep 6 2007, 10:18 AM)
Good choice - have you read any of his other stuff?
No, this is my first delve into his work. Very good so far.What other books would you recommend?
Sostie
Sep 6 2007, 09:25 AM
QUOTE (maian @ Sep 3 2007, 05:10 PM)
I've now started
Only Forward by Michael Marshall Smith.
I can recommend
Spares and
One Of Us. Don't read that much science fiction these days, but I'm now thinking of popping into FP and seeing what else of his they have on the shelves.
Jessopjessopjessop
Sep 6 2007, 09:32 AM
QUOTE (rebelstar @ Sep 6 2007, 10:18 AM)
Recently finished Alastair Reymolds'
Chasm City which was superb, and I'm currently reading
Market Forces by Richard Morgan which isn't up to the same standard, but it's certainly a page turner.
Good work sir! It's a very clever book - the twin threads of narrative set years apart, the hardboiled feel, and not to mention Reynold's original and gritty future. Are you planning on checking out his other stuff?
Market Forces is a readable romp, but the premise is so like a Nicholas Cage movie, it is difficult to fully engage with.
rebelstar
Sep 6 2007, 10:57 AM
QUOTE (maian @ Sep 6 2007, 10:22 AM)
No, this is my first delve into his work. Very good so far.What other books would you recommend?
Definitely
Spares and
One Of Us (as mentioned by Sostie) as well as
What You Make It which is a collection of short stories. All three are excellent.
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Sep 6 2007, 10:32 AM)
Good work sir! It's a very clever book - the twin threads of narrative set years apart, the hardboiled feel, and not to mention Reynold's original and gritty future. Are you planning on checking out his other stuff?
I certainly will - I've already read
Revelation Space and I'll be picking up the rest of his stuff ASAP.
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Sep 6 2007, 10:32 AM)
Market Forces is a readable romp, but the premise is so like a Nicholas Cage movie, it is difficult to fully engage with.
It is - although Morgan did say that the novel is blatantly influenced by Mad Max and Rollerball (and it was originally written as a screenplay) so I suppose that's the sort of thing he was going for (sans Nick Cage, possibly).
maian
Sep 6 2007, 01:51 PM
Cheers for the Michael Marshall Smith recommendations guys, I'll be sure to check them out soon.
In other news, I checked out those new Penguin editions and picked up:
What A Carve Up- To see what Zoe has been talking about.
Fast Food Nation- Because my non-degree related non-fiction reading has declined sharply over the last few years and I wanted to rectify that.
Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky- Just on a whim.
Jubei
Sep 6 2007, 02:18 PM
Finally finished Eats, Shoots and Leaves which was an interesting, amusing and informative read. Also just finished Snare by Katherine Kerr which, while having an interesting premise, had characters that were largely so objectionable and racist that I had difficulty finishing it. I also got the feeling that the book itself had slightly racist undertones: with it's radical muslim society seen as a threat to all non-muslim societies. This is the second of her books that I've read, and the second I didn't enjoy. So don't always trust friends recommendations.
mcraigclark
Sep 6 2007, 04:35 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Sep 6 2007, 09:51 AM)
my non-degree related non-fiction reading has declined sharply over the last few years
Read
Cod by Mark Kurlansky. It's excellent.
GundamGuy_UK
Sep 6 2007, 05:31 PM
I had a few hours in town to kill before meeting my friends, so I bought The Colour of Magic to see what all this Discworld fuss is about.
It's pretty entertaining, so far.
maian
Sep 6 2007, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (mcraigclark @ Sep 6 2007, 05:35 PM)
Read
Cod by Mark Kurlansky. It's excellent.
Will do. Though my ''to read'' pile is now 80 books high, so it will be a while.
QUOTE (GundamGuy_UK @ Sep 6 2007, 06:31 PM)
I had a few hours in town to kill before meeting my friends, so I bought
The Colour of Magic to see what all this Discworld fuss is about.
It's pretty entertaining, so far.
It's the weakest book of the series as well. I recommend you check out Guards! Guards! next, the first book in the ''Night Watch'' series of the books.
GundamGuy_UK
Sep 6 2007, 05:55 PM
Well I'm going to finish off the Rincewind ones first probably, seeing as that's what I've started. I found a handy flow diagram showing the relationships of all the books to each-other, so I know where to go for each.
That's one of the reasons I hadn't read them before now; there are 30-odd books and I had no idea where to begin (I wasn't aware that Colour of Magic had "The First Discworld Book" written on it).
Jubei
Sep 7 2007, 07:19 AM
I haven't read Pratchett for years then a few months ago I was lent
Strata and recently bought and read
The Truth, as there was nothing else in WHSmiths poor selection. I enjoyed them both, Strata more probably because I'd just read ringworld, but it was amazing how quickly names came back, Foul Ol' Ron, Cut Me Own Throat Dibbler, Captain Carrot, Commander Vimes, Sergeant Angua, The Patrician. Like family i hadn't spoken to for years, but kinda knew I'd get in touch with eventually.
ETA: Do you mean this
flow chart.
Jessopjessopjessop
Sep 7 2007, 10:22 AM
I'm reading 'The Dreaming Void' for real now.
150 pages in, and I was vaguely irritated at the typical Hamilton plodding, but intrigued at the multiple plot lines. I was struggling to engage with Edeard's world - for some reason PFH insists on including backwards pastroral idyll But this morning, things took a more interesting turn, and stuff started happening. If only he didn't take so long, his books would be crazy good.
Jubei
Sep 7 2007, 11:21 AM
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Sep 7 2007, 11:22 AM)
I'm reading 'The Dreaming Void' for real now.
150 pages in, and I was vaguely irritated at the typical Hamilton plodding, but intrigued at the multiple plot lines. I was struggling to engage with Edeard's world - for some reason PFH insists on including backwards pastroral idyll But this morning, things took a more interesting turn, and stuff started happening. If only he didn't take so long, his books would be crazy good.
It wasn't until literally the last two pages of the book that I took any interest in Edeards world, and that was so obvious it was abrely worth me reading them. I find myself almost quick reading through the 'Void' sections to get back to the meat of the story, even though those sections are what most of the situations going on are caused by. That isn't a spoiler.
ipse dixit
Sep 7 2007, 12:29 PM
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Sep 7 2007, 10:22 AM)
I'm reading 'The Dreaming Void' for real now.
Does that mean I get
World War Z now? Cooly. I'm about 90 pages into
The Steep Approach to Garbadale, but I'll take a break for
Z so you can have it back sooner, Andy.
Jessopjessopjessop
Sep 7 2007, 01:14 PM
QUOTE (ipse dixit @ Sep 7 2007, 01:29 PM)
Does that mean I get
World War Z now? Cooly. I'm about 90 pages into
The Steep Approach to Garbadale, but I'll take a break for
Z so you can have it back sooner, Andy.
Yes, you can borrow that as of tomorrow. It is Andi at work BTW, not Jubes...
ipse dixit
Sep 7 2007, 04:10 PM
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Sep 7 2007, 01:14 PM)
Yes, you can borrow that as of tomorrow. It is Andi at work BTW, not Jubes...
Oh, ok. Good thing you cleared that up, or I'd've been posting it to Exeter.
GundamGuy_UK
Sep 7 2007, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (Jubei @ Sep 7 2007, 08:19 AM)
ETA: Do you mean this
flow chart.
Pretty much. I have a different one, but it's the same order.
maian
Sep 10 2007, 01:03 PM
Finished Only Forward last night. A really wonderful sci-fi story that created a wonderfully strange world and which was superbly narrated by the main character. The second half of the book after the characters started going into Jeamland got increasingly dark and the final hundred pages were actually quite horrific, something which I wouldn't have expected given the reasonably light tone of the first half. I don't know why but I also found the ending surprisingly touching and sad.
All in all, a terrific book that came as a real surprise to me.
Now I'm onto I Am Legend by Richard Matheson.
Raven
Sep 10 2007, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Sep 6 2007, 06:50 PM)
It's the weakest book of the series as well. I recommend you check out Guards! Guards! next, the first book in the ''Night Watch'' series of the books.
Of his early work, I always thought Equal Rites, Mort and Wyrd Sisters were very good (Sorcery and Pyramids were a bit
meh though), but as you say, Guards! Guards! is very good indeed!
I really should read some of them again.
QUOTE (maian @ Sep 10 2007, 02:03 PM)
Now I'm onto I Am Legend by Richard Matheson.
A very good book indeed!
I'm wondering how faithful the Will Smith film is going to be . . .
Sostie
Sep 11 2007, 01:35 PM
Atonement by Ian McEwan
I have in the past been a bit reluctant to read books that are Booker nominees/winners - I always thought they would be a hard slog, focussing more on prose than story, and only in recent years have I got over my "prejudice" leaving me with a whole stack of titles I should catch up on. I admit the release of the film of Atonement prompted me to read the novel and I'm glad I did.
Can't really give too much away except it is a rather brilliant and compelling story of 3 people, a lie (is that on the poster?) and its repercussions. Oh, and one hell of a revelation at the end. A revelation that by a lesser writer may have left the reader feeling a little cheated, but here makes the story all the more heartbreaking.
Jubei
Sep 11 2007, 02:06 PM
The Sanctuary Seeker by Bernard Knight. A not-too-bad medievial murder mystery, of particular interest because it's set in Exeter in 1194 complete with local landmarks and places. Interesting to get a feel for what the city was like in a storytelling sense rather than a history text. The Protagonist, Coroner Sir John De Wolfe is a fictional character but based in historical truth when the post of Coroner - or Crowner - was first instituted by Richard Lionheart. So far an interesting fiction woven round with historical fact all the more exciting as I can say 'St Sidwells, that's where Sidwell street is now...' etc. Only slightly let down by some clunky sex scenes...
(avert your eyes younger readers)
In spite of his lethargy, Crowner John roused himself sufficiently to give a creditable performance in the arms of his agile mistress before he rolled over and fell sound asleep for the rest of the night.
and
Nesta climbed on top of him and rode him as energetically as he cantered his grey stallion. When they had first become lovers, her fondness for straddling him had rather offended his masculine need to be dominant. However, she had broken him of the habits of a lifetime with good-humoured persistence until he had come to enjoy it - though often with a roar of passion he would roll the pair of them over and hammer her almost through the palliasse and into the floorboards beneath.
Gets one rather hot under the collar.
tigerlily
Sep 11 2007, 06:16 PM
Just finished The Diary of Anne Frank which I really quite enjoyed. I'd have probably hated it if I had to study it at school though.
Now I'm onto re-reading Lord of the Flies. I have to read all the books that my 5th year are choosing for their Personal Studies. It's only now I realise how much I lack knowledge in suitable literary books for teenagers. Luckily I'm foisting short stories on a few of them so that should save my weary eyes.
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