princess_shrek
Apr 12 2009, 10:00 PM
How come the Doctor and Christina were able to run so easily on dry sand, and yet the bus sank? Why did he leave the 'good' aliens to be massacred, having stolen the power source from their vessel?
I'm glad that Christina isn't going to be in the other specials - she really grated on me. When the opening sequence started I thought it was going to be a Tom Cruise moment...
Loving the anagram of the next episode.
Everlong
Apr 12 2009, 10:27 PM
Anagram?
Oooh, you can make 'The Master' out of the letters, can't be arsed to try the other letters though, ha.
maian
Apr 12 2009, 10:35 PM
The Master of Wars? Which makes sense since it's set on Mars...
NiteFall
Apr 12 2009, 10:40 PM
QUOTE (princess_shrek @ Apr 12 2009, 11:00 PM)

How come the Doctor and Christina were able to run so easily on dry sand, and yet the bus sank? Why did he leave the 'good' aliens to be massacred, having stolen the power source from their vessel?
Because a bus has a lot more mass for its footprint compared to a person. Also spinning wheels are going to get stuck in sand far more easily than feet are. As for the aliens I thought the point was that
he tried to save them, but after one of them got eaten the other one decided to try and shoot the flying manta ray thing and got itself eaten in the process.
Wife Of Rolex
Apr 12 2009, 10:49 PM
QUOTE (maian @ Apr 12 2009, 10:41 PM)

Should have specified that I meant the music.
I've been meaning to mention that since last year.
Anyone else feel that the music in the series is taking over a bit? Obviously the music by Murray Gold has been a strong feature since its return, spawning not one but two special nights as part of the BBC Proms to hear it in full splendor. But the last 2 series have seen almost every scene have these sweeping pieces of music and I can't help but feel it's starting to get a little overwhelming.
Every now and then I'd actually like to watch a scene that's completely carried by the acting and dialogue and not an orchestra.
mousespider
Apr 12 2009, 11:30 PM
I thought it was just a mediocre episode, made worse by having it be longer.
And Michelle Ryan began to annoy me after about five minutes, and therefore am very glad she won't be back for the rest of the specials, but I just know she'll be back eventually.
princess_shrek
Apr 12 2009, 11:54 PM
QUOTE (Wife Of Rolex @ Apr 12 2009, 11:49 PM)

Anyone else feel that the music in the series is taking over a bit? Obviously the music by Murray Gold has been a strong feature since its return, spawning not one but two special nights as part of the BBC Proms to hear it in full splendor. But the last 2 series have seen almost every scene have these sweeping pieces of music and I can't help but feel it's starting to get a little overwhelming.
Every now and then I'd actually like to watch a scene that's completely carried by the acting and dialogue and not an orchestra.
I'm with you on this. I love the scoring, but there's simply too much of it. As the Emperor allegedly said to Mozart, there are too many notes.
whitey
Apr 13 2009, 02:56 AM
QUOTE (Wife Of Rolex @ Apr 12 2009, 11:49 PM)

Anyone else feel that the music in the series is taking over a bit?
The music's been misfiring since Ecclestone. A handful of episodes have had fantastic scores but they've been the exceptions.
Starscream`s Ghost
Apr 13 2009, 09:24 AM
And it's far. Too. LOUD!
Raven
Apr 13 2009, 12:43 PM
RTD has always professed to be making cinema for the small screen, and Murray Gold's scores fit in with that.
Personally, I've liked a lot of the music in New Who, but there have been times when I thought it worked better than others.
I did find myself thinking, on Saturday, "that's another sweeping score", perhaps it was more noticeable this time out because of the story was so flat.
Starscream`s Ghost
Apr 13 2009, 07:54 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like the music, it's just often a lot louder than the dialogue.
Even Dead Ringers commented on it...
Serafina_Pekkala
Apr 13 2009, 11:22 PM
I didn't mind it although Michelle Ryan really shouldn't have looked like she wanted to rape Tennant at all times. Yes we know he is lovely and you would love to rub your norks in his lanky Scottish sexyhotface but it's VERY ANNOYING and SPOILS THINGS IN GENERAL! At least she isn't Kylie Minogue.
Also - music - very bad at times and disruptive. When Zoe Slater was driving the bus we got these orchestral swells. Not good. Oh well.
Although I did like some of it - the fly boys, the locations and Lee Evans who was OTT but made a great nutty professor. Another Welsh character to flesh out the Universe for us.
Did anyone else think Stingray! Stingray!!!
Raven
Apr 14 2009, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (Serafina_Pekkala @ Apr 14 2009, 12:22 AM)

Did anyone else think Stingray! Stingray!!!
They played that on Doctor Who Confidential afterwards.
Kick in the Head
Apr 14 2009, 11:44 AM
What a load of old guff.
Absolutely zip of a spark out of Michelle Ryan who, saddled with an awful Lara Croft facsimile and woeful dialogue ("I like extreme", "Can you detect me yadda-yadda?"), was left to just smile a lot. But frankly the best piece of acting came from one of the flies shrugging their shoulders, with the UNIT Captain especially terrible, sleep-walking into each shot with a dazed expression and delivery and zero authority. The story itself was of little interest, the flying bus finale cloying and the plotting very poor - you could explain them away, but in the context of the show stuck out big time (Why did she zip-line out of the museum after snatching the artifact only for the next shot to have her back inside? And the reasoning behind the use of the cup in their getaway plan muddled and silly. Plus, why did the fly-things have little ear-piece communicators on hand when they had no ears?).
Oh, and NO MORE FUGGIN' PSYCHICS! THEY OFFER NO USEFUL EXPOSITION AND STIR UP AS MUCH DREAD AS A SQUEAKY FART!! AND NOT JUST IN DOCTOR WHO - IN ANY MEDIUM WHATSOEVER!!!!
Nice setting though.
whitey
Apr 15 2009, 02:30 AM
In excellent news I have it on good authority from someone who knows that the currently completed scripts for the new Doctor are darker, scarier, meaner and funnier, all make perfect sense (no more magic story solutions) and are more than likely to alienate more than a few million viewers. Didn't think I'd say this but I'm quite eager for Tennant and Davies to fuck off now. Had enough.
Zoe
Apr 15 2009, 08:37 AM
QUOTE (whitey @ Apr 15 2009, 03:30 AM)

In excellent news I have it on good authority from someone who knows that the currently completed scripts for the new Doctor are darker, scarier, meaner and funnier, all make perfect sense (no more magic story solutions) and are more than likely to alienate more than a few million viewers. Didn't think I'd say this but I'm quite eager for Tennant and Davies to fuck off now. Had enough.
This is very very very exciting news.
All hugging, kissing and telling humans they are brilliant/fantastic should be banned. I'd like to see more alien indifference please.
Raven
Apr 15 2009, 09:00 AM
The Waters of Mars trailer they showed at the end of Planet of the Dead did have more of a Midnight vibe to it than Voyage of the Damned, which can only be a good thing.
I don't dislike some of the lighter episodes, I still enjoy The Runaway Bride hugely, but it's when "fun" becomes "silly" (aka Cyber Kings and Potteresque flying buses) that I lose interest.
angle
Apr 15 2009, 03:02 PM
Watched the repeat of New Earth (series 2.1) on freeview the other night MMMhh sexy Billie Piper !!
Raven
Apr 15 2009, 03:05 PM
I saw that as well, DT looks a helluva lot younger - working on Who has aged him.
Who knows, Matt Smith might look like a twenty year old by the time he finishes!
angle
Apr 15 2009, 03:55 PM
I'm still not sure about this Matt Smith geezer but hopefully my trepidation shall be dashed on the rocks of ' OOh he's rather good actually' nes like when Tenant took over, we shall see.
Raven
Apr 15 2009, 04:32 PM
I'm only joking above, I don't really see the "12-year-old" in him that others seem to.
I think he could be a very good Doctor.
PrincessKate
Apr 15 2009, 08:30 PM
Watch (Formerly UK Gold) are showing a season of Who eps next week in tribute to his 'greates companion'.
Yep, that's right. Rose.
fatseff1234
Apr 16 2009, 06:57 AM
Hmmm... I've stayed away from The Dr since his last series. I think the Pompeii episode wast he last one that I actually sat down to watch, and I missed the first 15 minutes.
Have I missed much? Noit really by the sounds of it.
The Planet of The Dead has me hoping for a mass zombie outbreak type scenario but then there was all this guff about busses and sand so there you go. I'm sure that David Tennant was as energetic as ever.
spacemonkey
Apr 16 2009, 10:10 AM
QUOTE (Kick in the Head @ Apr 14 2009, 12:44 PM)

...NO MORE FUGGIN' PSYCHICS! THEY OFFER NO USEFUL EXPOSITION AND STIR UP AS MUCH DREAD AS A SQUEAKY FART!! AND NOT JUST IN DOCTOR WHO - IN ANY MEDIUM WHATSOEVER!!!!
Nice setting though.
KevinandNick
Apr 16 2009, 02:34 PM
QUOTE (fatseff1234 @ Apr 16 2009, 07:57 AM)

The Planet of The Dead has me hoping for a mass zombie outbreak type scenario...
RTD had been using zombie-like characters too often in New-Who, so I was relieved that he didn't use them for this one.
Kev W
fatseff1234
Apr 16 2009, 09:44 PM
QUOTE (KevinandNick @ Apr 16 2009, 03:34 PM)

RTD had been using zombie-like characters too often in New-Who, so I was relieved that he didn't use them for this one.
Kev W
That's true, it's just i'd rather see a propper bonafide zombie rather than some squid-headed mutes sucking on light bulbs.
NiteFall
Apr 16 2009, 09:47 PM
But face it, that's because you have a more than slightly worrying zombie obsession.
fatseff1234
Apr 16 2009, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (NiteFall @ Apr 16 2009, 09:47 PM)

But face it, that's because you have a more than slightly worrying zombie obsession.
It's not an obsession, it's a phobia

.
I enjoy my zombies,what can I say?
widowspider
Apr 17 2009, 01:18 PM
QUOTE (Serafina_Pekkala @ Apr 13 2009, 11:22 PM)

I didn't mind it although Michelle Ryan really shouldn't have looked like she wanted to rape Tennant at all times. Yes we know he is lovely and you would love to rub your norks in his lanky Scottish sexyhotface but it's VERY ANNOYING and SPOILS THINGS IN GENERAL! At least she isn't Kylie Minogue.
Also - music - very bad at times and disruptive. When Zoe Slater was driving the bus we got these orchestral swells. Not good. Oh well.
Although I did like some of it - the fly boys, the locations and Lee Evans who was OTT but made a great nutty professor. Another Welsh character to flesh out the Universe for us.
Did anyone else think Stingray! Stingray!!!
Lee Evans was funny - and Michelle Ryan wasn't bad at all, although she didn't get much to do other than be a Mission Impossible/Lara Croft amalgamation. I liked the psychic lady's performance too.
Raven
Apr 20 2009, 12:20 PM
Doctor Who theme wins sci-fi vote - though it is a bit of an odd list:
1) Doctor Who
2) Red Dwarf
3) The X-Files
4) Buffy the Vampire Slayer
5) Star Trek
6) Thunderbirds
7) The Twilight Zone
8) Battlestar Galactica
9) Quantum Leap
10) The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
I'm assuming that the
Battlestar music is the score from the 70's version, although it's not bad, I can't really see people voting for the new series theme.
Wife Of Rolex
Apr 21 2009, 02:10 PM
Rocksy
Apr 26 2009, 05:35 AM
QUOTE (Kick in the Head @ Apr 14 2009, 09:44 PM)

What a load of old guff.
Absolutely zip of a spark out of Michelle Ryan who, saddled with an awful Lara Croft facsimile and woeful dialogue ("I like extreme", "Can you detect me yadda-yadda?"), was left to just smile a lot. But frankly the best piece of acting came from one of the flies shrugging their shoulders, with the UNIT Captain especially terrible, sleep-walking into each shot with a dazed expression and delivery and zero authority. The story itself was of little interest, the flying bus finale cloying and the plotting very poor - you could explain them away, but in the context of the show stuck out big time (Why did she zip-line out of the museum after snatching the artifact only for the next shot to have her back inside? And the reasoning behind the use of the cup in their getaway plan muddled and silly. Plus, why did the fly-things have little ear-piece communicators on hand when they had no ears?).
Oh, and NO MORE FUGGIN' PSYCHICS! THEY OFFER NO USEFUL EXPOSITION AND STIR UP AS MUCH DREAD AS A SQUEAKY FART!! AND NOT JUST IN DOCTOR WHO - IN ANY MEDIUM WHATSOEVER!!!!
Nice setting though.
All this bothered me too, then i kept thinking of the Simpsons.
Frink: "Yes, over here, m-hay, m-hayven... in Episode BF12, you were battling barbarians while riding a winged Appaloosa, yet in the very next scene my dear, you're clearly atop a winged Arabian! Please do explain it!"
Lucy Lawless: "Uh, yeah, well, whenever you notice something like that... a wizard did it."
Frink: "Yes, alright, yes, in episode AG04—"
Lucy Lawless: "Wizard!"
Frink: "Oh, for glavin out loud..."
WIZARD!
Comedy Gold.
Raven
Apr 29 2009, 04:11 PM
More cast rumours for the final Tennant specials -
WARNING, THIS CARRIES A POTENTIALLY HUGE SPOILER IF TRUE!That should send various forums into melt-down!
Raven
May 11 2009, 01:04 PM
Zoe
May 16 2009, 01:12 PM
Everlong
May 16 2009, 01:31 PM
QUOTE (Zoe @ May 16 2009, 02:12 PM)

Inevitable, but I'm not complaining, as
I like Rose. Rather her back than Martha. I did like Martha but prefer Donna and Rose.
Starscream`s Ghost
May 16 2009, 01:54 PM
Barry Howard's in it? Jesus, I haven't seen him in a long time.
Raven
May 18 2009, 12:49 PM
It's gone now, but this was apparently listed on RTD's online CV earlier today:
Film
DR WHO (BBC Films/BBC Worldwide) Current
Easy now Glenn, it may just be a typo!
Wife Of Rolex
May 18 2009, 02:56 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ May 18 2009, 01:49 PM)

It's gone now, but this was apparently listed on RTD's online CV earlier today:
Film
DR WHO (BBC Films/BBC Worldwide) Current
Easy now Glenn, it may just be a typo!
Or they may be classing David Tennant's final episode as a film. Do we know how long the episode will be?
Raven
May 18 2009, 03:28 PM
It's supposed to be 60 minutes, but that is already listed separately on his CV (it's possible that was corrected when they removed the above, and it's also possible that the specials will be longer than that – knowing RTD and Co. I wouldn't be surprised).
Starscream`s Ghost
May 18 2009, 04:50 PM
He's probably re-making the Cushing ones.
Raven
May 26 2009, 12:38 PM
Wife Of Rolex
May 26 2009, 04:47 PM
Harry Hill did a great Doctor Who reference on You've Been Framed at the weekend. A clip came up of a kid wearing a gas mask and he said, 'Are you my mummy?'
The line had no relevance to the rest of the clip and would've gone completely over the heads of anyone who doesn't watch Doctor Who. A big chuckle for the geeks.
Raven
May 27 2009, 12:41 PM
More Animated Who on the Way.
Even more Tennant, they really are trying to get their money's worth out of him before he goes - at this rate he may as well have filmed a full series.
Wife Of Rolex
May 27 2009, 05:44 PM
Raven
May 27 2009, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (Wife Of Rolex @ May 27 2009, 06:44 PM)

That article isn't entirely accurate. The original BBC article does mention that work is underway on a script, but that is far from it being a confirmed project - there many hurdles they have yet to clear.
Wife Of Rolex
May 27 2009, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ May 27 2009, 07:34 PM)

That article isn't entirely accurate. The original BBC article does mention that work is underway on a script, but that is far from it being a confirmed project - there many hurdles they have yet to clear.
Hense the inverted commas. A cinema release seems
way off.
Raven
May 27 2009, 07:28 PM
Yeah, it wasn't a comment on your post, my remark was about DS being "flexible" with the facts.
NiteFall
May 29 2009, 12:10 PM
New assistant revealed. Sorry Zoe, it isn't you.
KevinandNick
May 29 2009, 12:27 PM
Another in-house bit of casting then...?
Kev W
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