Raven
Mar 25 2008, 04:54 PM
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 25 2008, 02:59 PM)
I'm sure it was in one of the myriad TV mags out there when the series rebooted, that he prefers Troughton and Pertwee, and wants to recapture that rather than what came later.
I'm not sure that is the case, as I'm pretty sure there was an article in SFX - just after it was announced he was taking charge of the show - where RTD said his favourite story was City of Death - I'll see if I can find it.
Could he have been talking about Colin Baker? That would be understandable!
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Hence the leaving out of the middle 8 in season one.
Okay, you've out nerded me there . . .
Starscream`s Ghost
Mar 25 2008, 04:57 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 25 2008, 04:54 PM)
Okay, you've out nerded me there . . .
If memory serves, Murray Gold said it reminded him of the Superman theme (can't really see it myself), and disliked the thought of the Doctor being thought of as a superhero.
Raven
Mar 26 2008, 02:01 PM
Svein
Mar 26 2008, 02:12 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 26 2008, 03:01 PM)
I read about that earlier, but the Metro never said that he called Doctor Who evil... All it stated was that he was leaving that part of his life behind!
Wife Of Rolex
Mar 26 2008, 02:41 PM
Ebay? Arse, I would've had the K-9 off him if it was a straight sale.
Then again, would I give my money to an obvious nutjob?
Second thoughts, he can keep the K-9. I'll get one from Woolworths like everyone else.
Drifter
Mar 26 2008, 05:28 PM
Raven
Mar 26 2008, 05:51 PM
QUOTE (Drifter @ Mar 26 2008, 05:28 PM)
*
cough*
NiteFall
Mar 26 2008, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 26 2008, 02:01 PM)
He's from Trowbridge. That more than explains it.
Raven
Mar 26 2008, 07:28 PM
I've been through it on a train, that was enough . . .
ETA:
Steven Moffat nominated for BAFTA!Yay! And Murray Gold is up for a gong too!
Llama
Mar 26 2008, 09:21 PM
Mr. Neilo had ex 'Doctor Who' companion 'Polly' (AKA Anneke Wills) apply to his film earlier on - well impressed, I am!
Everlong
Mar 26 2008, 09:26 PM
Start date and time officially confirmed.. 5th April at 6:20, a bit earlyish but thats good.
Clickage
Raven
Mar 26 2008, 11:39 PM
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Tell all your friends, cancel any prior engagements and settle down for what promises to be the most spectacular series of Doctor Who yet!
Pah! They'll never better Trial of a Timelord!
Svein
Mar 27 2008, 10:39 AM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 27 2008, 12:39 AM)
Pah! They'll never better Trial of a Timelord!
I trust that was sarcasm, right!
princess_shrek
Mar 27 2008, 11:05 AM
QUOTE (Everlong @ Mar 26 2008, 09:26 PM)
Start date and time officially confirmed.. 5th April at 6:20, a bit earlyish but thats good.
ClickageSo they're putting it on
before 'I'd do anything' - I'd have thought the other way round would have been better ~shrug~
Drifter
Mar 27 2008, 11:25 AM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 26 2008, 06:51 PM)
Damn you and your quick responses!

Bet you have this too huh!
TORCHWOOD ON RADIO 4
Hamish
Mar 27 2008, 03:05 PM
QUOTE (Drifter @ Mar 27 2008, 11:25 AM)
Damn you and your quick responses!

Bet you have this too huh!
TORCHWOOD ON RADIO 4Torchwood on radio could get away with so much more.
Jack: "Ianto stop sticking that stop watch there! IAAAANTO!!!"
Ianto: "Sorry, I thought you liked it in the toaster..."
Sostie
Mar 27 2008, 10:01 PM
Ooooh! That Doctor Who trailer got me all bit excited.
KevinandNick
Mar 27 2008, 10:16 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 26 2008, 02:01 PM)
Oh dear - another bi-polar nut-job. I have to work with one of them and it's really no fun at all having to be at the mercy of her violent mood-swings.
I am sure that now this individual has found God, he will be (to misquote Jim Morrison) snug in the wooley cotton brain of idiocy. If he sings hymns loud enough, they might just drown out the screaming voices in his head.
It's a good job that McCoy-era script editor Andrew Cartmel didn't go ahead with his plan of implying that the Doctor was himself a God - this guy would be burning his Doctor Who collection, rather than auctioning it off...
Kev W
Raven
Mar 27 2008, 11:36 PM
Who fans are never happy unless they can grump about something . . . (although I suspect this may well be a non-story dredged up by the DS writing team).
KevinandNick
Mar 28 2008, 08:07 AM
I think it's a big fuss over nothing - with DVD recorders & Sky+, who gives a damn about exactly when something is on.
RTD isn't happy about the slot, and to a certain extent I can understand his annoyance, as having it at an earlier slot seems to imply that the show is strictly "for kids", rather than a general audience and will turn off any potential new viewers for that reason.
My exciteable five-year-old nephew is a HUGE Doctor Who fan (though in his eyes, there is only one Doctor - and his initials are DT), so the new slot will mean he doesn't have to wait so long on a Saturday, but I think the show is more than capable of holding its own in a prime-time slot.
Kev W
Svein
Mar 28 2008, 08:51 AM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 28 2008, 12:36 AM)
Who fans are never happy unless they can grump about something . . . (although I suspect this may well be a non-story dredged up by the DS writing team).
Hello... VCR...
Mein Gots... to people really have nothing better to bitch about?!?
Withnail
Mar 28 2008, 09:29 AM
Nerds on the Dr Who websites are also bitching about the fact that RTD has changed what the acronym UNIT stands for!
Starscream`s Ghost
Mar 28 2008, 09:44 AM
QUOTE (Withnail @ Mar 28 2008, 09:29 AM)
Nerds on the Dr Who websites are also bitching about the fact that RTD has changed what the acronym UNIT stands for!

Well, that's a genuine bitch. Changing something like that is pretty needless, I must say.
Svein
Mar 28 2008, 09:48 AM
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 28 2008, 10:44 AM)
Well, that's a genuine bitch. Changing something like that is pretty needless, I must say.
What is it now... It's not United Nations Intelligence Taskforce?!?
Withnail
Mar 28 2008, 09:56 AM
QUOTE (Svein @ Mar 28 2008, 09:48 AM)
What is it now... It's not United Nations Intelligence Taskforce?!?
UNIT now stands for the Unified Intelligence Taskforce. Apparently the United Nations objected to its name being used.

Not sure I believe that though!
Svein
Mar 28 2008, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (Withnail @ Mar 28 2008, 10:56 AM)
UNIT now stands for the Unified Intelligence Taskforce. Apparently the United Nations objected to its name being used.

Not sure I believe that though!
But they never had a problem with it for the previous 38 years?!?
Starscream`s Ghost
Mar 28 2008, 10:22 AM
If that is the case, then petty, petty UN. You'd think they'd have more to worry about.
But I suspect that RTD might just be playing to form, making random changes to piss off the fandom.
Raven
Mar 28 2008, 10:30 AM
I heard about that last week, and whilst I couldn't really see the point at the time, having thought about it since then using the United Nations is a bit dated now.
In the sixties/seventies when UNIT was introduced people had more confidence in the UN, but it's failure to act effectively over the last few years, and the US and UK undermining it's authority with their unilateral action in Iraq, has rather taken the shine off it.
I suspect the attitude Davis and Co. are taking is that it's a trivial change, the group is still called UNIT and they will still do the same job, it's the story telling that is important not the nerdy attention to detail.
Still, it's going to be a pity if someone doesn't utter the line "I'll have to check that with Geneva" at some point . . .
Starscream`s Ghost
Mar 28 2008, 10:38 AM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 28 2008, 10:30 AM)
Still, it's going to be a pity if someone doesn't utter the line "I'll have to check that with Geneva" at some point . . .
Or 'Five rounds, rapid!'.
Yes, the story is king, but it does almost seem that RTD and co. do like to annoy the more avid fans.
And I have to admit, I'm in two minds as to whether to even bother with the new series. It doesn't look very good. And the return of Billie and the f'n Daleks isn't convincing me otherwise.
Svein
Mar 28 2008, 10:54 AM
My biggest complaints about UNIT so far is:
1) They really haven't been used... Sure, we've seen them in the background, and there's been the nods to Dr. John Smith, but no real UNIT stories... Even McCoy had Battlefield.
2) Before he pops it... let's TRY and get the Brig back for one last episode... And if Nick Courtney can't do it, then get Brigadier Winifred Bambera back... Although I would still love to see Brigadier Alister Gordon Lethbridge Stewart one last time...
Raven
Mar 28 2008, 11:28 AM
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 28 2008, 10:38 AM)
Or 'Five rounds, rapid!'.
They could only do that if they got Nicholas Courtney involved, it just wouldn't be right coming from someone else!
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Yes, the story is king, but it does almost seem that RTD and co. do like to annoy the more avid fans.
I think Davis and Co. have generally taken the right line with Doctor Who, they've kept the focus on the story and characters and used elements of the shows past without getting bogged down by kind of detail that eventually did for the Star Trek franchise.
QUOTE (Svein @ Mar 28 2008, 10:54 AM)
And if Nick Courtney can't do it, then get Brigadier Winifred Bambera back...
For the love of God, why?! She was terrible!
Withnail
Mar 28 2008, 11:43 AM
QUOTE (Svein @ Mar 28 2008, 10:54 AM)
if Nick Courtney can't do it, then get Brigadier Winifred Bambera back..
She'll always be Deb Lister to me!
Starscream`s Ghost
Mar 28 2008, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 28 2008, 11:28 AM)
I think Davis and Co. have generally taken the right line with Doctor Who, they've kept the focus on the story and characters and used elements of the shows past without getting bogged down by kind of detail that eventually did for the Star Trek franchise.
It's a fine line, to be sure. And on the whole he's done ok at treading it. But he does seem to be on a all-consuming crusade for new, young fans (who undoubtedly are more likely to buy action figures, mugs, pyjamas, and so on), and in doing so neglects the older amongst us who kept the series going long after it had ended originally.
Svein
Mar 28 2008, 12:01 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 28 2008, 12:28 PM)
For the love of God, why?! She was terrible!
Actually, thinking back on it, she was rather awful...
That episode had one of my fave lines ever though...
"Don't worry Brigadier. People will be shooting at you soon enough."
Raven
Mar 28 2008, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 28 2008, 11:45 AM)
But he does seem to be on a all-consuming crusade for new, young fans (who undoubtedly are more likely to buy action figures, mugs, pyjamas, and so on), and in doing so neglects the older amongst us who kept the series going long after it had ended originally.
I don't get that impression, I just think he is trying to make good family entertainment.
Starscream`s Ghost
Mar 28 2008, 01:54 PM
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 28 2008, 01:51 PM)
I don't get that impression, I just think he is trying to make good family entertainment.
We're going to have to agree to differ on this one.
Hamish
Mar 29 2008, 12:17 AM
Anyone see the clip on Friday Night Project? Same old same old really... Although from what I've seen of the monsters in the first episode it looks like it could be a lot of fun.
Everlong
Mar 29 2008, 09:47 AM
New Teaser on the website..
Master Back?! She's beside a fire/pire with a ring on...
Hamish
Mar 30 2008, 01:04 PM
QUOTE (Everlong @ Mar 29 2008, 09:47 AM)
New Teaser on the website..
Master Back?! She's beside a fire/pire with a ring on...Might as well be, everyone else is coming back...
I guess they're doing it because it is almost like an end of an era... what with the gap so maybe they're tying up everything and in Series 5 everything will be new.
gulfcoast_highwayman
Mar 30 2008, 01:16 PM
I think series 5 will just about finish when Ashes To Ashes does. What's the betting that some tabloid starts a campaign to get Glenister made the next Doctor?
Raven
Mar 30 2008, 01:24 PM
Seeing as he's just signed to do ITV's stab at Van Helsing, which is supposed to be going out in an early Saturday evening timeslot, I can't see the Beeb being keen on signing him up to play the Doctor, but BBC Wales does seem to be fairly incestuous so I don't suppose it's impossible that it could happen . . .
Zoe
Mar 30 2008, 01:34 PM
He'd actually be a very good choice, not in his Gene persona, but he is an excellent actor. I just adored him as Dobbin in 'Vanity Fair'.
I'd like someone older than Tennant, less sexy, and just as good an actor. Possibly a bit more of a grump, and someone less keen on hugging fine examples of humanity. Someone with a touch of distance, a more alien, alien.
I'd also like a companion not from present day London, and preferably not a girl, perhaps not even human.
I hope they take the opportunity for a shake-up and don't rest on their laurels, sticking to a succesful formula.
Also, no Daleks for a whole series please.
princess_shrek
Mar 30 2008, 02:14 PM
I'd like less Earth-based stories; I'd like them NOT to find any excuse to bring Billie Piper back; and a Doctor who's a little less predictable, who perhaps doesn't always do the right and proper thing. I've loved David Tennant in the role but it feels to me that he's taken the character as far as they'll let him.
Zoe
Mar 30 2008, 02:53 PM
The Observer think it's the best opening episode since the revamp, and call it a return to form after the disappointing Christmas special.
Here's hoping.
princess_shrek
Mar 30 2008, 03:10 PM
QUOTE (Zoe @ Mar 30 2008, 03:53 PM)
The Observer think it's the best opening episode since the revamp, and call it a return to form after the disappointing Christmas special.
Here's hoping.
Oh yes. Another thing to add to my wishlist for the future - NEVER EVER EVER bring back Kylie.
Wife Of Rolex
Mar 30 2008, 08:18 PM
QUOTE (gulfcoast_highwayman @ Mar 30 2008, 02:16 PM)
I think series 5 will just about finish when Ashes To Ashes does. What's the betting that some tabloid starts a campaign to get Glenister made the next Doctor?
He's too associated with playing an iconic character to play another one. Though that won't stop The Sun declaring it next sunday after the first episode has aired.
Besides, I've already told you. It'll be Rafe Spall.
You wait and see.
Starscream`s Ghost
Mar 30 2008, 10:02 PM
Nesbitt. I'm telling you. Especially if Moffatt takes over as head writer.
Hamish
Mar 30 2008, 11:16 PM
I find Nesbitt distracting... I honestly can't think of his as anyone else apart from Nesbitt. When he was playing Pilot in the Passion I was wondering why he is doing such nasty things.
Series 4 apparently only has 2 episodes set in the past. And they go to 5 alien planets.
That's it, I'm writing to the Sun!
As a human, I find this atrocious! How am I, a casual viewer, supposed to relate to Mr. Zog from Planet Zog! I think more episodes should be set on council flats and not childish fantasy planets!
Raven
Mar 31 2008, 08:36 AM
QUOTE (Hamish @ Mar 31 2008, 12:16 AM)
That's it, I'm writing to the Sun!
As a human, I find this atrocious!
I think the Daily Mail might be more interested in that line . . .
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How am I, a casual viewer, supposed to relate to Mr. Zog from Planet Zog!
Or Mr Ood from the planet Odd!
Zoe
Mar 31 2008, 08:49 AM
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 30 2008, 11:02 PM)
Nesbitt. I'm telling you. Especially if Moffatt takes over as head writer.
After the excellent 'Jekyll', which was bags of fun, I'm all for this. They make a great team, and Nesbitt showed fantastic Doctor potential in his performance. I'd recommend renting or buying it to anyone who missed it. It takes a couple of episodes to warm up, but once it does it's an absolute joy. Moffatt really knows how to write an engaging story, appropriately paced, with scares and laughs. I think his could be a golden age.
I really never thought of Nesbitt in anything like this sort of role until I saw him being half bookish, driven scientist and half rakish superhero - sound familiar?
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