True, but from a business point of view it would make more sense to delay a killer title for a new, exciting and innovative console than to leave it for (and it pains me to say this) a lame duck console. Fair enough if they would want to put it on the Cube, but pretty much everyone who wants to buy one will have bought one by now and they won't be able to bring too many more to the fold because nintendo are shit at marketing. If they want to build on the success of the Cube (it's got good sales and made a good deal of money on account of being so cheap to make) then they need to get teh Revolution off to a flying start. I'm prepared to wait because it will be worth the wait.



It's the name for the slightly smaller Xbox controllers that were introduced after the complaints that the original ones were too big and uncomfortable to use. They were designed with Japanese gamers in mind but are now pretty much standard for the console.

You speak a foolery there my friend. That game is poop. Considering that all of the levels were simply cut down versions of the true game I cant see your line of thinking.

Considering the amount of time spent on developing Twighlight Princess for the Cube, I really doubt that they would create more work for themselves by overhauling it for the Revolution.

Got an extra mission level unlocked on Mario Kart. Got star rating or above on all missions and unlocked some insanely hard stuff to do. 6 power slide boosts on Rainbow Road. Hardcore. Got 2 stars on it! One more sub-mission to go!

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You speak a foolery there my friend. That game is poop. Considering that all of the levels were simply cut down versions of the true game I cant see your line of thinking.
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What's to see? I'm just saying that I found the GBA version infintely more enjoyable and interesting than the home console version

[quote=zeden,Dec 21 2005, 08:59 AM]
Considering the amount of time spent on developing Twighlight Princess for the Cube, I really doubt that they would create more work for themselves by overhauling it for the Revolution.
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It depends on how difficult it would be to convert between the two; Dinsosaur Planet started out on the N64 with completely different characters but within a few months it had been converted onto the Gamecube and the characters had been replaced with the Starfox cast. The conversion took relatively little time and that was converting from a cartridge based format to disc. Considering the fact that Twilight Princess was initially delayed about 3 months ago and (if rumours are to be believed) won't be released until November) that will have given Nintendo's team (which apparently is quite large for this game) ample time to convert it.

Each to their own I guess.

I suppose. It's still saddening though.



Ah, amkes sense. Should've thought about it really.

Been playing a bit of Condemned, pretty good so far. It's way more tense than F.E.A.R., there have been a couple of times when Condemned has scared the crap out of me. Not quite so sure that the whole melee thing is quite enough, though, it'd be nice to have a bit more variety than just bashing people to death...

Also finally got around to trying Call of Duty 2 today as well, this being on the PC... Quite impressed with this too.

Hate to say it, but I told you so.

Totally taken Mario Kart apart now. Finished all the missions on at least 1 star. Some of the later lavels are hardcore.

Played Fifa 06 last night. Pretty good compared to some of the older games. Its clear that EA has taken a lot of inspiration from the Pro Evo series, which is no bad thing in my book. Still not as good as Evo in the end though.

Got a new graphics card and The Movies on boxing day. The game itself is pretty good, a mix between the Sims and the "Theme" branded games. Was really looking forward to the movie making option but its turned out to be very limited. Hopefully, with a few more hours of practice I'll be able to make something half decent.

Got given Civilization IV for christmas. It is slowly consuming my entire life.

Of course. I knew there was another one on my "to get" list. I'm going to be entirely bankrupt by the end of the week, I think.

Nah, I think you were overly harsh. The atmosphere more than makes up for the rest of it, it's what most games lack. The melee system is actually quite good, it's just that it could have done with a bit of something else too.

I noticed the complaint about it being linear, but also that you said you like the story... Stories are inherently linear, so you'll struggle to find something that satisfies both. The game was designed to be linear, as are nearly all first person games. Some throw in a bit of an alternative path but on the whole they're still linear. The trick is just to do what Half Life and its sequel did, be completely linear but be so damn good that no one cares.

Your warning was valid as I returned the game to Gamestation. What I don't get is that this is the first of the series available here in the UK without having to modify your console, yet it seems if you haven't played Xenogears and/or Xenosaga Episode 1 it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I got Suikoden IV instead.

I got Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks yesterday and it's good ol' fashioned fun. "Ko-Op" looks good, all I need is a friend to play it with...

Also bought Killzone for £5 at Argos today, I've played it before, great fun.

Tis silly indeed. I remember when Xenogears came out in America I was looking forward to it. Havnt touched it for 2 weeks now. The day will come when I play it some more, I refuse to be beaten.
Suikoden 4 is meant to be pretty cool I hear, though the ocean sections are supposedly very dull. Give us a little review when you've played it a bit please. May have to get it myself, if I can find the time to play it.

Well I have Condemned and Call Of Duty 2 sitting there all pretty in their little green, shiny seethrough cases waiting to be played

Should have just got CoD2 on PC instead, you'd have been able to play it already, and it's better with mouse + keyboard anyway.

As with all FPS's. Re-installed FarCry on mine, best sniper rifle I have seen up to date.

Got the New Tony Hawke game for Christmas.
About four hours into the 'story mode' and I'm already losing interest.

Can't create your own skater for it and it's a bit linier in the story mode.

Looking forward to the 'Classic mode' because I miss collecting the S-K-A-T-E letters.

Nothing's a patch on Pro Skater 4!!

Tony Hawks 2 all the way......

Have been re-playing Kong recently, but also bought True Crime: New York City yesterday. Not bad so far....

Too right. It actually requires a bit of skill to use it, without it seeming completely clumsy.

Indeed it is a bit poop. Classic mode has a few of the levels from the old games but its very easy compared to the older games. Shame really, its the first bad Tony Hawk game in my opinion.
Pro Skater 2 was a beast, played a demo of that for months before it came out.

On a very bad note personally, I lost my Soul Calibur 3 data yesterday, while playing the game. Finished with all characters and just about everything unlocked. Loaded up fine, played for while, went to save and it tells me that my data is corrupt. The game didnt crash, or do anything weird. Everything else on my memory card is fine. WHY WHY WHY. Really cant be arsed doing it all again, but I need to so I stuff unlocked for 2 player. Its a bugger.

Hardly an achievement the starting line up of games were crap. Call of duty 2 (which is a better game than perfect dark and would have been better on Live... that is if it had worked.

ONLY TWO GAMES WORTH BUYING IN ORDER:
1: Call of duty 2
2: Perfect Dark Zero

Everything else is just a compromise. Oh BTW AoE3 wasnt bad at all recomend buying if you liked the previous games.

I would but my pc's too shit.

I'm a console gamer all the way.

I dunno, Kameo is quite a good game, but then again I only played it for a few hours, and half of that time was playing the demo in Korean.

Still got my name in the credits though.

I just finished Condemned, and it's far better than I originally thought. Bloody excellent game, it's actually got a decent story, some great set pieces, and it really does absolutely scare the shit out of you at times. It is *very* violent though, for those that like to avoid that kinda thing. Like if you knock someone down to their knees, you can do finishing moves which involve things like slamming their head into the concrete or breaking their neck...

"GTA: Liberty City Stories" is becoming infuriating. I love the game and there are some great moments but this one mission is really becoming annoying - you have to go through all the song and dance at the start (being given the mission, getting to the location etc) and then loads of guys attack you with chainsaws (and if you happen to get killed then you have to go through ALL that stuff at the beginning again... it just gets boring).

If anyone wants a game of Mario Kart DS, my friend code is:399493 761725.

Look foward to racing you.

Bugger, slipped down the rankings a bit on PGR3 since i haven't been playing online for a couple of weeks...

bought my PSP a couple of days ago.......mmmmm! Tasty stuff! Anyone know anywhere good for downloading stuff for it? Silly videos, movies etc? Ive got some nice wallpapers!
GTA is immense! It only seems like yesterday the first 3d GTA game came out, and now you can play it on a shiny little swish looking handheld!





I Just did that mission! The only tip I can give is collect as much shotgun ammo as possible! I.e nicking cop cars and shooting the guy in the gun shop (and then finding some cop bribes!) The shotgun takes them down in 1 go so you have time to shoot each one.

Yeah it was a real pain for a while but I did it in the end. I'm now on Staunton Island.

Its a nice feeling isnt it!Though I havnt done any of the missions on there yet, been too busy rampaging!

I've unlocked all the islands and then got a bit bored with it. I think after 4 GTA games the gameplay has finally gotten too samey.

Well I've played quite a few hours on this, so here's my summary so far.

I don't know if you're familiar with any of the earlier Suikoden titles, but if so, like the earlier ones you do end up with a 'base' to recruit people. According to reviews you can recruit up to 108 people. Not all these are usable as characters in fights though, some will fill certain roles in your base like manning shops. A nice feature is the support character who plays no part in combat but has a secondary function. Some heal the party a little bit after each fight, some get more treasure per fight and so on.

Graphically it's nothing spectacular, but the game seems BIG, and it does have an addictive quality that keeps you saying 'just one more little bit'. The combo feature that certain characters can learn is pretty cool. Also, upgrading your weapon instead of constantly buying new ones is a good thing.

I got mariokart for crimbo.

DOnt have brodband. Will have to find wifi area someday.

Been playing nintendogs again. Fount a helicopter ive been chasing and landing on my dog

Got The Movies on Boxing Day. Great Sims style people management mixed with Sim City style building. Very little emphasis on managing your money allowing you to concentrate on movie making. Simple effective controls. The sort of game that eats hours without you noticing. Only downer is that the in game movie maker function isnt quite as in depth as I would have liked.

Yet to get online with my DS, the local pub listed on the wifi web site doesnt actually have access.

Well GTA: Liberty City Stories is essentially GTA 3, the point of the new game is really to showcase the format of the PSP. I think it's done a bloody excellent job in transferring the majority of features from a console to a next generation handheld so effectively.

It's a fantastic achievement - better than GTA 3, not a port of it. But after 4 games, the whole GTA gameplay is tired.

11/10 for impressing me

It makes you wonder where the next GTA can go to top San Andreas and keep people playing the series. Whats next, your character ageing, kids and a family? Sim-mortgage?

The GTA games have always had consistent level of improvement with each sequel, SA especially. Considdering the power of the next generation of consoles the next game is likely to be astounding. Graphical improvement is liable to be the biggest thing in the next one. Improved damage models for vehicles and buildings would be nice. Rockstar seem to listen to their fans so theres bound to be loads of little things in the next one that'll surprise.

But GTA games get longer and harder to make as well with each iteration. The limitations on games now isnt the console's power, but the economics of making a game that utilises all that power.

By the time i got tp that mission I had the revolver in my base from finding hidden packages. Makes it a LOT easier. If you go back and do it again twice, you eventually complete it and get the chicken suit as a costume. Mind you, you have to fight off chainsaw wielding chickens first, and they take two revolver shots each. I eventually pplumped for the assault rifle to finish them buggers off.

The mission thats got me the most so far was where you take control of someone elses car and have to run loads of people over. Took me AGES!

GTA Croydon. You play a young hoodie on a mission to rob Greater London's arse off.

Could be nearer than you think. I reckon it'll be a 3d reimagining of GTA london, the add on for GTA in 60's london, full of crappy cockney accents and Austin Powers style humour.

All this talk of GTA has moved me to play San Andreas again. It's been a long while. I'll remind you of a similar GTA discussion that you might want to carry on... I'd like to see Madchestoh, or as kid_k suggests, a funky-ass Superfly-style mo-fo.

Got Mario Kart DS the other day but don't have wireless in my parents house, once I get back to Uni I'll give it a spin. Mario Kart is a pretty great slice of wonderful though. So much fun, although I can't play it for too long without suffering cramp in my hands. The console is slightly too jagged for the game, still good though.

Perfect Dark DS?
Please let this be true.

And please let the single player be better than Zero. A similar multiplayer would be awesome though.

Still waiting for that damned 360. Meanwhile I've just been playing on Battalion Wars.

Shootey Shootey. Bang Bang. Hehe great fun.

Have you not seen any in the shops yet? My mum said she saw a few in Comet the other day, dunno how long they lasted.

My Uncle said he saw one in a shop the other day, it was the last one, and some woman kept picking it up, putting it back down, then eventually left it and walked off. Then she changed her mind and came back for it, to find that someone had just bought it. Bugger.

I've been playing bizarre things.

Populous and Populous 2.

Face of Mankind (scifi mmorpg)

Sonic the Hedgehog

Starship Titanic

Discworld Noir

Nonosweeper (like minesweeper but even more addictive)

Just rang around a few shops and ones been put aside for me, I'm going through tomorrow to collect it. Yay. It's only a core system though I guess I'll have to hunt around for a hard drive.