I think it was an episode ot two shorter.

I have no complaints with the quality of the series as a whole...just the last episode - a mixture of missed opportunities, obvious "surprises" and a cop out!

That's what I was thinking. Series 1 was really good but series 2 seemed pretty bloated and I found myself losing interest. Series 3 started off ok but now seems to be going down the same route as 2 and from what people have been saying I'll have to see if I can stick with it.
Meh, there's always Heroes (repeat 3 times).

I've just watched series one on DVD (I don't have cable, Sky or Freeview).



Wow.

Good stuff, better than the original, and one hell of a cliffhanger series finale.
I'm now desperately trying to avoid spoilers for series two (only been caught by two, and one of those I kind of already knew).
eBay, here I come!

I wouldn't say it's better than the original. I think it's not fair to even compare them, they're that different.

Plus, I love the Cylons in the original. I still want to be a Centurion when I grow up. And I don't mean the 'Power Extreme' kind.

I would.

The originals were pure tosh, made to cash in on the Star Wars boom.

The plots, acting, direction, scripting and just about everything else was amateurish at best.

Yes, yes it was. But it was the late Seventies, after all.

My point is that they might have the same name, but that's as far as any comparison can go.

It's true that the original was a Star Wars cash-in, cheesy, very '70s and limited by budget. But when I was a kid, there was something about it that made me watch (only the original series, though, NOT the 1980 one *shudder*).

I think you can compare them. It's the same basic idea, after all. The new series just changes some points of the concept, and develops from there.

I think it might be a touch too dramatic but overall, I like it.
LOTS of bitching about it on IMDb, though. "My God, Starbuck/Boomer's a girl!!!" "They use bullets!!!"


Definitely prefer the new Adama to the old one. Lorne Greene had presence, but I think E. J. Olmos is more to my liking in the role.

For some reason I imagine Rip Torn as the original Adama. Wishful thinking I think.

And Will Smith as Boomer, Johnny Knoxville as Starbuck and Tommy Lee Jones as Colonel Tigh.

Agreed. They took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to long with the build up to the trial, and the pay off was teh weak sauce.

CONFIRMED!

BSG to end after Season 4.



*shakes head* What kind of a world do we live in?....



Except that it's funny as hell quite frequently. *ding!* Nnnnnnext?!

One where creativity isn't valued at all, it would seem.

As long as everything gets wrapped up satisfactorily by the end, I'm okay with that. I'd prefer to see it go before it completely runs out of steam.

No, that's fine - that's great, actually. Four seasons is a good healthy stretch for a show like BSG. What I took exception to was the implication that the network was being arsey about letting them come back to finish, which in light of some of the pure-grade cack that SciFi inflicts upon the public regularly would be a sorry state indeed.

The Pretender being a prime example.

Or, say, Hammerhead: Shark Frenzy (Jeffrey Combs notwithstanding).

One word: Mansquito.

I hope to never see this show because the name alone has raised my hopes for it beyong all reasonable measure.

It's actually a telefilm. And yes, it's balls.

It bloody well sounds it. Hell, it's almost Manimal.

Trying hard not to look at any of the above, but I started watching series three last night.

Got through the first two episodes before I went to bed, and couldn't get to sleep for the sound of Cylons clumping around my head!

Very good so far however!

It doesn't last, IMO.

Exodus parts one and two are good, but Collaborators is too predictable.

5 down, 15 to go . . .

Keep going... it leads to a really messed up season finale!!!!

I never liked the way theyd jump huge steps in time, one minute theyre fighting cylons and the next half of them are married and/or pregnant and setting up home on a rock.

Sci Fi are quite famous for renewing all the shite whilst prime sci fi shows like Farscape and BSG get the boot everytime, as for Mansquito WTF is that? Sounds like a Mexican revolutionist, they really do churn out crap sometimes.

And they killed MST3K. But that was way back in the day, before NBC owned 80% of the network.

I finished watching season three this week, and whilst it was good, I can't say I really enjoyed it because it is just so bleak - what happened to the humour?

The thrust of the story now seems to be "What else can go wrong?" there has been very little to cheer about, or be cheerful about.

Perhaps it ending at four series might not be such a bad thing.

I'm only halfway through watching series one - it's bloody brilliant.

I've got about 20 minutes left of the pre-Season One mini-series to watch. I fuppin' love it already.

Can't wait to get my pupil-less eyeballs hooked on Seasons One and Two (thanks for the loan of the latter, Ellie!)

Spoilers Ahoy!

Okay, some more in depth thoughts on the season and some comments on some of the previous comments:

I thought it started well, the occupation of New Caprica and the subsequent exodus were very good, but Collaborators was far too predictable (Gaeta being unmasked as the inside source, at the close, to make the rest of them question what they had done themselves was far too obvious).

After that the rest of the season tends to blur a bit into one long slog.

Baltar works with the Cylons, and then gets captured by the Humans. Zarek warns Roslin of dire consequences of a trial, but then it takes forever for the trial to actually occur and when it does it turns into an American day-time soap, where everyone's dirty washing is aired and the defendant gets off!

During all of this we get to go three or four rounds in the love live of Lee and Kara *yawn*, get the odd insight into Cylon mysticism, a couple of episodes of Bringing up Baby and another round of Tigh hits the bottle - oh, and we also get to see how life is bobbling along for the rest of the fleet in a couple of episodes, but who really cares about the little people eh? (except Helo and Tyrol perhaps . . .).

None of this is bad, per say, and individually there were some very good episodes, but when viewed as a whole it just doesn't grab the imagination like the events of the first two series and, more often than not, it is so grim it feels like you are watching Eastenders in Space.

People complain that the Doctor Who has got a bit soapy, but it has nothing on new Galactica, where everyone is harbouring secrets, people are coping off with each other behind their other halves backs (whether they be human or Cylon!) and the dead come back to life for the season cliff hanger!



Err, none at all in the end as it turned out (well, at least as far as Roslin and Adama are concerned, or Sharon and Adama for that matter! An opportunity missed?!).



Yeah, I'm coming around to that view as well.



Very good!

At the ends of Series 3, we have potentially two Cylon/Human babies running around...

What are the chances that by the end of Series 4 they'll have grown up and started a hybrid race which will render both warring sides obsolete?

I'm not convinced Tyrol, Tigh and Co. are Cylons to be honest, it's a bit of a big coincidence that the leaders of the resistance on New Caprica also all happen to be toasters - I think it's a red herring.

But, if they are Cylons, and Tyrol's kid is hybrid, what are the odds that when they get to Earth him and Sharon's girl hook up and become Adam and Eve?

I'm with you on both counts.

I'm covering a colleague's job at work this week and next, which involves a lot of repetitive and brainless work (something I'm ideally suited for) and as I don't have to concentrate to do it, it has given me the opportunity to listen to the audio commentaries Ron Moore and Co posted on the net for various episodes of Galactica.

Anyway, after that pre-amble, the reason I'm posting is to say that in the commentary for Lay Down Your Burdens, part 2 - where they have the one year skip forward - they actually say they are worried about how fans are going to react to the time shift (the podcast was recorded before the episode aired), but that the reason for doing it was to have everyone settled on New Caprica when the Cylons turned up.

At the time I found it very jarring as well, but having now seen the third series, I think it was a very good way of shaking things up and also of getting the humans and the Cylons interacting more closely.

I have yet to see the third series, and I appreciated it for the fact that it does at least take 10-15 minutes to introduce you to the new dynamics. It's less jarring in that respect than other shows I've seen which employed similar tactics. (I know I always come back to Alias, but it just offers so many examples - in this case, the end of Season 2 where the reveal came at the last second and left everyone gobsmacked. Much harder to recover from in the subsequent season...)

I'm about halfway through Series One, and it's a little addicitive, I must say. Frackin' love it so far.

Same here, I really must get round to watching the rest of it.

I've been listening to the pod casts Ron Moore has been posting on the official web site and, for anyone interested in the creative process behind the show, I'd say they are worth a listen (although I would only recommend doing so after you have seen a complete season as he can be a tad spoilerific).

Three episodes shy of finishing Series Two. It's blummen ace!

You will soon have your DVDs back, Ellie!

I'm halfway through series two. I just watched the episode where they find the Pegasus and Sharon nearly gets raped. Stuff like that always upsets me a lot and it was a pretty gripping episode. I'm properly hooked.

Both halves of that two-parter are unbelievably intense. When Chief and Helo storm the cell to stop her being attacked, I practically flew off the sofa.

The whole Pegasus arc is superb and the highlight of seaosn 2 for me. It's absolutely gripping and tense from the first time they encounter the Pegasus and some of the CGi on display during some of the battle scenes are really quite beautiful

Yes, Yes, and Yes!

I finished Series Two about a week ago - brilliant, brilliant stuff. I really like that it bears a slight similarity to Firefly in the crash-zoom filming style, most notably in the airborne battle sequences.

There are some truly fascinating and complex character arcs and relationships, particularly Sharon, Gaius (the whole 'double life/personality' thing he has to juggle makes for compelling viewing), Starbuck and Apollo, Tigh, Roslin, Adama's Jr. & Sr, the Chief and numerous others - it's a densely packed sci-fi series that has yet to fall short of brilliant in my opinion.




Ohhhhh, and Grace Park, Katee Sackhoff and Tricia Helfer are hot, hot, hot. Bonus.

I'm going to finish the first season this weekend, methinks. Not before time.

I watched the entire first series when I got it on Monday. I was disappointed with the thing on a whole, but I rewatched the first disc last night and the attention to detail, the arcs, and just about everything about it (aside from the sometimes really really unneccesary shakeycam) had me going. It's a truly brilliant series, but I'd still have liked a bit more of a conclusion, rather than treating it as an 'arc-continuer'.

That'll be because Zoic Studios do the effects for both serieseses.

That's the nature of the TV series beast these days though, I suppose.

Oh, me too. Totally great. They have a plethora of fabulous actors in that series, and the Pegasus storyline is just fantastic. Really gave Tricia Helfer the chance to show her acting chops as well - she's got a great part in that show.

They did set out from the beginning saying that they wanted to tell a story over several seasons. I personally quite like that style of television writing as it gives room for greater scope and the chance for smaller arcs to develop within the show, something which becomes quite important in seasons 2 and 3. The only real conclusions any of us will get for the series will probably be the end of season 4 since the rest of it is just the unfolding of a bigger story.



They even went so far as to stick Serenity into the mini-series. Cheeky blighters.

I have to admit, I was nervous about her character at first; I didn't want her to wind up being a cookie-cutter Seven-of-Nine type designed to sell posters. She really is wonderful, though, and the Pegasus Six storyline was totally unexpected. Awesome.

It will be interesting to see how they intend to fold the Pegasus prequel miniseries into the current narrative. Hope it works. (Of course, I'm all for more Michelle Forbes being a cast-iron bitch. )

Is season 3 available on DVD yet? I can't seem to find it on Blockbuster.