And even then it drags like a bitch!

I hate to correct you on this but for the first season NBC Universal ponied up 75% of the cash while Sky-One gave out 25% and even then Sky is 38% owned by News Corp (FOX). so the UK contributions to BSG is less than 15%. After that all seasons were wholly bankrolled by NBC Universal.

I don't know when the event I've spoilered below occurs (although I know it is in season "4", as I have already seen all of season 3), so caution is advised!

Cock.

I'm re-watching series three at the moment, having finally picked up a copy of DVD, and went on the net to see what else the actress who plays Cally has been in, only to find that she doesn't make it to the end of series "4".

Arse.

My own fault, I know, but it's always bloody annoying finding out something like that, you just end up waiting for it to happen . . .

^ That's in the first half of s4. Just for anyone wondering whether to sneak a peek.

But did it really happen? Remember, nothing is as it seems on this show... Whether that's because of laziness on the part of the writing staff, or Ron Moore's grand vision, I don't know, but they can't be trusted.

If it's any consolation, Paul, many of those of us watching on first run were spoiled on that, as well. (They very blatantly teased Cally's death in the previous week's preview, so much so that many thought it was a red herring and were irritated to discover that's exactly what happened. A definite "You fucking well know better, BSG" moment. )

Myself & Bronagh are finally getting around to watching the end of series 3.

Starbuck's fucking dead?

Oh right. Not really then.

I gotta' say I was really disappointed with how that season ended panning out. It kind of lost it's way a little, rushed a few things through & became rather silly in parts.

Off to the shops to purchase Season 4 soon anyway.

yeah, it did kinda get screwed up. from what i hear; after the rather grim episodes of new caprica, there was a call from sci-fi (the pricks) to make the series more episodic, so people could dip in and out. something that hardly makes sense, considering they'd already spent a mini-series and two and a half seasons building a narrative arc.

hence, the second half of the third season was a bit shit. people complained, sci-fi realised they were being pricks and left the bsg team to get on with things. season four starts very well and has a slight writer's strike related hiccup towards the end, but i'm confident that the forthcoming final chunk will be up to standard. well, at least, i hope it is.

i've recently spent some time re-watching from the start and i'm about to finish season two. my love for gaius just grows and grows...

How? It's not even finished airing yet!

The second (and final) half doesn't even start until January, or something.

Play.com is selling it.


eta: Tried to post a link but it didn't seem to work. Anyways I went ahead & ordered it along with Razor.

I've just finished re-watched season 3 myself, having recently picked it up cheap on DVD (I originally watched it through the net).

I've got to say it works a lot better the second time around. Still not 100% sure about the choice of four Cylons, or the way they handled that - indulgence on Moore's part? - but overall I think it works. Also, Mark Sheppard as Romo Lampkin is pure magic to watch, a genius piece of writing and casting.



They are selling the first half as season four in the UK, I strongly suspect that the second half will get a season five label.



Would now be a bad time to mention that Razor is included in the season four box set? (I didn't know myself until I looked at a copy in HMV yesterday . . .).

It's good though, so watch it twice, or something!

The more Michelle Forbes, the merrier.

Ballicks.

Somebody's getting a Christmas present they weren't expecting

It's a bit silly really, because it seems as though it is only there to pad out the half-season box set to a reasonable length - I'd have preferred it if they cut down the number of disks and the price of the set.

They got me I tells ya'. But they won't get me again see.

Next time, I'll check.

I just picked up my copy of series four from Woolies (it's actually marginally cheaper there than anywhere I've found online) and I can confirm that disk one is Razor, with a commentary, some deleted scenes and some minisodes - whatever they are.

The fourth series is spread over the other three disks with a preview of the remaining episodes on the last disk (again, with some deleted scenes).

ETA:

I've just checked and it looks like the Razor disk is an exact copy of the single disk release earlier this year - no new material . . .

Since my housemate has just got Season 4 on DVD, I decided to binge watch all of Season 3 so that I'll be up to date.

I haven't looked over all the various pages of analysis but I agree with what Dan said on the previous page, the opinion that seems to be the dominant one elsewhere, that the season started out well with the episodes on New Caprica but it fell apart in the final half when it started to get more episodic and developed a generic Star Trek feel to it. Don't get me wrong, I like science fiction takes on union disputes as much as the next guy, but it didn't really advance the series as a whole.

The decision to pretty much abandon the search for the Final 5 and the lack of urgency regarding the search for Earth during the second half was probably the biggest problem. To have set it up over 12 episodes and established the sense of intrigue and destiny that drew me in to the series in the first place and then to just put that all on the backburner for a lot of the remaining episodes resulted in a frustrating and often dull 5 or 6 episodes which Crossroads Part 1 and 2 just about recovered from, but I'd have much preferred the events of those episodes to have been spread over 4 or 5 than to have had them crammed into a season finale.

I probably would have enjoyed certain parts of the season more if I hadn't know at least two of the major plot twists in advance namely; the identities of most of the Final 5 and Starbuck's disappearing/reappearing act. I don't think knowing those things in advance completely ruined it all for me, but part of what I liked about the earlier seasons was not knowing what was going to happen next. Except for when I first started watching it and started on Season 1 instead of the mini-series.

Regardless of that, I still enjoyed it for the most part, thought that it had a lot of what I love about the show on display. I particularly liked the episodes with Gaius on the Baseship. In fact, just Gaius in general pretty much makes my day. It's just a shame that it all kind of went tits up for the middle bit.

I am looking forward to Season 4, though, as I've heard that at least some of these problems have been resolved now that someone has slapped the SciFi execs above their faces and told them to frack off.

ain't that the truth...

i just finished my rewatching. as soon as i'd finished the episode where bulldog returns, i put the big box away, as it was a stark reminder that the quality took a huge nosedive. sure, there's a few moments in the rest of this season which are okay, but they're just nowhere near as good.

don't worry young man, season four is a most welcome return to form and, for gaius fans, there's plenty to enjoy. fun.

That's Season 4.1 watched.

I dunno, you travel halfway across the universe, lose countless lives along the way and you wind up on the set of an Ingmar Bergman film. Isn't it always the way?

On a serious note, I thought that this first half featured some of the strongest episodes that the show has yet seem. My favourite was probably The Hub. Not only were the visions a nice way of breaking up the episode, but the ending actually had me tearing up a bit. Absolutely blinding work from all involved, and seeing how everyone reacted to the various revelations in Revelations was great.

Also, the fake-out in The Hub totally had me fooled.

I think if you listen to the pod casts that Ron Moore has recorded, he pretty much holds up his hand and says that they did let the pacing slip in the second half of series three, and that he wasn’t happy with some of it himself. From what I remember of what he said, they pretty much had all the New Caprica material worked out in advance, they knew there would be fall out from that which would be dealt with over successive episodes and they also knew they wanted the season to end with the trial of Baltar and the revelation of four of the final five. What they then tried to do was to take a step back, after a pretty intense start, and reflect a little by showing what life was like around the fleet, before they got into the finale and the revelations they knew that would bring.

Having re-watched this again recently (see above!) I'd have to say that, on both viewings, I wasn't really that bothered by the change of pace or focus, and to some extent it was good to have a few non-arc heavy episodes that concentrated on some of the minor characters. The Passage, the episode that focused on Kat, was a good one, and I didn't mind the Tillium episode either, because I quite like Chief Tyrol, but I did find the one with the rogue doctor bumping off Sagittarians a bit of a drag, mainly because it was so predictable, and the one where Adama spent a day with his wife was just plain odd (although the back story was interesting).

I saw it well after a lot of other people and although I can see a dip in quality, the reaction from some fans (who threw all their toys out of the pram and actually stopped watching the show altogether) was just way over the top.



Now you have seen season 4, have you changed your mind about that, given that is what most of the last series was about?

I know I've only just finished watching it, but I think I need to watch season 4 through again at some point (I think that when I have recovered my DVDs from a colleague I've lent them to I'll do that, from the start!).

There were some bits that jarred, the demise of Cally so early was unexpected. After I knew it was going to happen I had anticipated it taking place later in the series, when it would be building towards the break, but the thing that made me go "eh?" more than anything was the seemingly sudden change in her character - the last we saw of her, things between her and Tyrol were getting back on track, weren't they? It all seemed a bit sudden, even if you do throw in that he is one of the final five. Gaeta was another odd ball, he really seems to have become more unhinged as the series has progressed, and how the hell was he allowed to return to active duty with just the one leg?! I’ve actually gone from really liking his character in Collaborators, to hoping someone would but a cap in his head . . ..

Asides from that though I enjoyed it, Razor followed by ten good episodes, building to an interesting and under-played climax, I'm looking forward to Season 4.2/5, whatever they decide to call it!

Half way through uk dvd Season 4.

Chief. No. What are you doing? Don't hold his hand. Cheif? No! Cheif!

^ More editing required

Too late.

DVDFile sez:




The cover of hawtness:


Yis! Don't know when the Region 2 date is; the gauge is all screwed up now, since you lot got S3 so soon before us.

What are they looking at? Lee is clocking some cleavage perhaps. Hehe.

It's not as good as the UK cover . . .

no gaius, no hotness...

I can't believe that Mary McDonnell is 56.

Olmos's wife is younger than me! If I was going to bother a grandad, he'd be up there - ODB.

Well just finished watching UK Season 4 & whadda' ya' know they found Earth.

That was so much better than the the last few episodes of Season 3 although things again seemed a tad rushed toward the end. Saul Tigh (who both myself & Bronagh refer to rather affectionately as Mr. Lahey) has been hilarious & gets better & better.

Roll on the final season.

'Caprica' prequel series greenlit

Really just confirming what everyone has expected for a while but it's nice to see that the go ahead has indeed been given.

There's also stuff at the end about Season 4 airing in the states and another Pegasus-style movie.

I don't think I could possibly be more excited about Caprica, so I'm trying to keep my expectations at an even keel.


There's a web only interstitial short going online soon, in which apparently it will be revealed that Gaeta is gay. Which I don't think is all that shocking, really... wondering how they're going to play out, though, and how relevant it'll be to the rest of his storyline.

I don't think I could possibly be less excited about Caprica. It just doesn't register on my radar. Not yet, anyway.

With such non-existent expectations, I'm sure I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I'm not sure I see the point of Caprica, if this isn't about the first war what is it going to be about? No spaceships, yet it is only set 50 years before - they didn't develop the Galactica et al in that time frame, surely?! (or have I missed something?!).

It's not that there aren't spaceships, more that they are focusing on the family drama and the development of the Cylons.

So, anyone watch the Gaeta webisodes? I caught most of them including the leaked ones (Thanks, Amazon!) and... well, not bad. Not great, certainly, but not bad. Actually, I think io9 hit pretty much every nail on the head with the excellently titled "Love Isn't A Battlestar, Unfortunately." (And now I want to see Felix and Hoshi do the silly Benatar shoulder-twitching dance.)

Egads, not the menacing boob-dance!

How long do we have until the show resumes, anyway?

Oh, January 16. I can handle that.

I re-watched the mini-series on Sunday, the first time I've done so since first viewing it.

I'd totally forgotten about the 'Boxy' character they introduced. Thank dog they had the bottle to drop the 'cute kid' from the series proper.

20th January.

Hurrah!

According to Sky 2 listings, two episodes of the fourth series are on in 3 mins. According to the blurb, it's the 'highly anticipated fourth and final series'.

I don't follow it really, but hasn't there already been a season four?

We're halfway through the Forth season so that'll be the first half on Sky 2. The second half of season 4 starts next Tuesday on Sky 1.
It'll probably be released on DVD as season 5.

Right, that makes sense. Thanks.

Yay, it's tomorrow! Here, anyway.

EXCITED!

Am I good, or what?

I'll tell you on Tuesday.

Wow, you are. Nicely done!

The first episode set up lots of questions, so we'll see how they all play out. Could be good, could be a bit 'eh?'.

^ Absolutely agreed. And at any rate, no matter who it is, I'm really glad they got the identity of the final Cylon out of the way. They have a lot to accomplish in nine episodes, best to get about doing it immediately.

Poor, poor Dee. That was awful.

Most shocking moment in Battlestar so far. Brilliantly set up.

Thank you Sky+ for allowing me to record all of season 4 so far (despite a scare yesterday when Sky2 stopped working after the bad weather and missing 6 minutes of one episode apparently.) I shall be able to catch up on it and then start on the new series without having to shell out for DVD's. Hurrah.