They do, don't they?

I enjoyed the Vengance of Chief, and that he then settled in an island off one of the northern continents. From this, I like to think it was Britain, and we Brits are all the Chief's children.

I liked that as well. I liked to think of him as being behind this place although on looking at that article the timing is wrong.

Oh, and if Gaius is God, then it confirms what I always suspected. The supreme being is a Yorkshireman.

You're the second person to mention that. What do you mean by him being a Yorkshireman? Do you mean Gaius or James Callis because he's from London?

born and raised in london. although, he did go to the university of york...

snap!

Hee! I said Scotland too... Galen/Gaelic.

ETA - just spoilering that in case.

Yeah, I always thought that he was going to Scotland as well.

I meant Gaius. In one episode where he was on trial and talking to either Romeo or Lee, he dropped his posh voice and talked in what he said was his proper accent, from his home colony. James Callis used a Yorkshire accent, based on his time at York University.

I really didn't get the impression that Gaius was God, instead that both he a Caprica 6 had 'angels' who took each other's forms inhabiting their minds.

Well he did mention Highlands.

And Scottish leaders were called 'Chieftans'.....

yeah, it's more my fantasy, than fact...

still, it wasn't ruled out and who are we to deny a position of divinity, to one so deserving?

So what did we learn?

Hendrix will save human kind

The Japanese might destroy it

Brother Cavil is a bottler (why did he top himself.? It seemed to be for no particular reason except to give him a dramatic end)

Starbuck may be in the employ of Rentaghost

It was a good finale.

Oh yeah. Aceness.

As for his accent, I'd forgotten that bit. May have to go back and watch it again. His Dad did mention that he doesn't speak with his real accent though. Sarah thought he meant American which is testament to his Dad's poor accent acting I suppose.

EDIT: Sostie. I agree with you on the why did he top himself? I assumed it was to prevent himself from dying at the hands of his creators or something but it happened so quickly there was hardly any point to it.

I got shouted at for saying that it was Hendrix - everyone went on about how it was a Bob Dylan song. But it was Hendrix's version of All Along the Watchtower, right?

Also - the thing about Cavil killing himself was apparently an 'outtake' that Dean Stockwell just threw into one of the takes, and they loved the idea that Cavil gave up and shot himself rather than be taken prisoner or killed by someone else. Ultimately, he was always looking out for himself and I thought it worked well that he just killed himself rather than try to save others or get involved in the fighting.

Would have been better if he said "Oh boy" before he did it.

^ Ha!


I thought so, but I'm no expert.

It was the Hendrix one. The Dylan version is nowhere near as good and anyone who says otherwise is probably just trying to sound, in the words of Simon Amstell, "cool and slightly bohemian".

Thank you!! See, Pete? See? See?

No, not American at all. Dad's accent sounded Irish (Northern?) to me at the time, but I may be wrong, to be honest I wasn't really paying as much attention to that as I was to Six's reaction shots (Tricia rocked that scene, man.) Definitely, though, the implication's been there all along that Baltar put on posh airs once he moved to Caprica. (IIRC, his homeworld was Aerelon; I looked it up and the show bible describes it as a poor agricultural world, so that fits. And adds to the brilliance of his ending so well... you were meant to be a simple farmer, Gaius Baltar, you can't escape it.




I agree, he wouldn't let anyone else have the "honors." Even though he professed to want to preserve the Cylon race, I always had the impression that was code for "preserve me and my own line"; that monologue he gave Ellen in the info-dump ep was so incredibly self-aggrandizing and egotistical, I can't imagine that he had any other motives. Certainly not that he gave two shits in the end about the Simons or the Dorals, beyond their surface usefulness.

Definitely not.

See? Not paying attention. You'd think Lee ran through that scene in a threadbare towel or something...

He's right. On both counts.

It was more of your standard country bumpkin accent - somewhat non-specific. And yes - Baltar's ending had me in tears. I thought Callis did a beautiful job with that and it was a lovely way to tie him back to his father.



Totes.

Not looking at the above!

I'll have to wait until June 1st for this, but I'll be able to blitz through it all in one or two hits!

So the Season 4.0 set has a featurette called "The Music of Battlestar Galactica" which I figured was going to be just a harmless little thing on Bear McCreary and his influences and what not. Jesus, was I wrong.

This is just the middle bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTRVs1qYXc8

I'm literally in pain with laughter. Gaaaaaiuuuus... Baaaaltaaaar.... HE'S THE MOTHERFUCKIN' SHIT!


ETA: Also: BSG Credits in the stylee of Dallas. Amazing.

Science Fiction shows are among my favorites on tv. Based on the show that aired in 1978, the new Battlestar Galactica [spam link deleted - Chapman Baxter] takes sci-fi plots to the next level. With great land and space battle scenes, this show leaves little to be desired. Character plots and arcs increase the intrest in the show with great chemistry and humorus lines. With a bleak future presented before the human race, a group of refugees take it upon themselves to find a new homeplanet to settle the race away from their enemies, the Cylons. This show proves just how resistant the human race is aginst adversity.

Or save yourself the cost of postage and get it from HMV for £35.

[spam link deleted - Chapman Baxter]

Well, I started watching the mini series last night and it only took about half an hour before I was hooked. Do I get to hate Gaius? Don't answer that.

Heehee.

They did that too?

ST: TNG

Voyager

Yes. But only if you love him equally.

What the flip? Caprica has already premiered in the US? When do we get it here and has anyone seen it?

I have it at home to watch. Saw the first five minutes. Exposed breasts and Eric Stoltz is all I remember.

it's only the pilot, i think - the season doesn't kick off until the autumn, as far as i'm aware...

If by premiered you mean they've released the pilot on DVD, then yes.

And no, I've not seen it, but people seem to like it. A good mix of hard sci-fi and sexiness.

Caprica's been at the top of my Netflix queue for two weeks now and it still says "Very Long Wait." Crap.

Boomer? Six? Starbuck?

Caprica's great. Even way better than BSG imo. Very sexy, very grown up and has a daring take on today's problems. I expected something like 90210 with ipods but it's so much more.

Hope, they won't fuck everything up when they change everything somebody complains about.

Just settling down now to watch the last box set (well, the first three/four episodes, anyway!).

Watched the second half of the mini-series last night and the first two episodes of season 1 this evening.

It's good so far. I like the gritty and grainy visual style and there are some interesting characters.

We have almost all the episodes here, I think I'll be getting through them quite quickly.

I managed five episodes in the end last night, and I think I'm going to try and squeeze in the final six tonight.

Some pretty grim stuff, especially Dee.

if you had any dedication, you'd have watched another episode last night, just so you could've finished with the final five...

It was gone 2am when I stopped then, that's late enough for a school day!

I'll be starting earlier tonight.

Hmm, not entirely sure what to think, except it had more false ending that Return of the King.

I need to ruminate for a while!

That was a real shocker when I watched it the other night. The whole build up to it seemed so nice and loving, and I had just started to think, ''I'd forgotten how much I liked Dee'', then 'boom!' Certainly got my attention.

Watched the final three episodes tonight and I am exhausted. The final episode was very well done, but it did quickly turn into a seemingly endless series of climaxes and that got on my nerves a tad. Other than that, I thoroughly enjoyed them and felt that the series came to a very satisfactory conclusion, minus the last five minutes, as others have said, which felt terribly preachy and over-egged it somewhat. Moore really outdid himself by getting all those disparate plot-threads, both physical and metaphysical, to a point where they could coalesce into anything remotely resembling a denouement.

On a more prosaic level, the attack on The Colony was masterfully done. My favourite episodes have always been the ones where they have to organise a massive operation and carry it out, so to get that writ large over two episodes was just wonderful, as far as I was concerned.

As for Season 4 Part 2 as a whole, I thought it was the most consistently strong the show has been since Season 1. Barely any fat on it, a real drive, such a palpably bleak and apocalyptic air, and the tensions that built up over the course of the episodes were terrific. The mutiny was brilliant, and it really felt as if the previous 2 seasons were building up to it.

Also, was I the only one who, when Galen was crawling through the ducts, said ''Chief Tyrell crawled to freedom through five hundred yards of shit smelling foulness I can't even imagine"?



My very Scottish housemate was extremely happy with that. The Galen/Gallic link is a very nice little touch.



Even Dylan prefers the Hendrix version, to the extent that when he plays the song live he plays that version rather than his own.

Anyone looking forward to 'The plan' in November?
I think it looks like an interesting special. I have to admit that I wasn't overly keen on the ending of the series but I still love the show and was kinda gutted that there was to be no more. So I'm a little excited to see what they do with this story line.

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