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Finally saw Serenity while I was away and was not dissapointed. Brilliant entertainment. Everything the last 3 Star Wars films should have been and more.
You know what the only thing that really disappointed me was? I'll put it in spoilers but it's not a plot fact, I just don't want it to taint anyone else's ideas of the movie accidentally. I found that the feel of the movie was much more clean and the whole gritty western thing seemed all but abandoned. I understand that the plot was very much a western theme, but its the actual western feel, the dirt, the music etc. I missed that. Otherwise, wholly enjoyable. I'll have to go again for sure.
I heartily agree with you on that, Jules. I think sacrificing the some of the Western elements was a deliberate choice made in an effort to balance familiar aspects of the show for the fanbase vs. making something accessible to noobs. If you were around for the Firefly experience - esp. episodes like "Safe" and "Heart of Gold" - it's palpably absent. So is the Chinese influence, a bit, though not as much; all the stuff w/ Inara at the training house and the rickshaws and signage on Beaumonde play that up. Plus the Ody Bar commercial, although that still looks Japanese to me. 
I noticed a distinctly lesser amount of chinese bits in the movie, they used to swear and shout in chinese all the time, but only a couple of characters do it a couple of times in the movie. I guess it makes it easier on the uninitiated, bit confusing when they spout off in another language and you haven't had a few episodes to get used to the feel of it. A shame but not a biggie.
However they did seem to cram in a lot more hillbilly speak, which kind of bugged me. If the future civilisation was based primarily on american and chinese, why is it that a large part of the american influence is dredged up from a time we have already pretty much left behind? Its like a future london reverting to cor' blimeys and the like. The western feel makes sense because we're back to frontiers and the like, but not the speech and phrases...
And the only other thing that got me was the crash landing, which i think has been mentioned. Seemed a little, cheap looking. I don't know. I can still forgive this though.
However they did seem to cram in a lot more hillbilly speak, which kind of bugged me. If the future civilisation was based primarily on american and chinese, why is it that a large part of the american influence is dredged up from a time we have already pretty much left behind? Its like a future london reverting to cor' blimeys and the like. The western feel makes sense because we're back to frontiers and the like, but not the speech and phrases...
And the only other thing that got me was the crash landing, which i think has been mentioned. Seemed a little, cheap looking. I don't know. I can still forgive this though.
QUOTE (Jubei @ Oct 14 2005, 09:25 AM)
And the only other thing that got me was the crash landing, which i think has been mentioned. Seemed a little, cheap looking. I don't know. I can still forgive this though.
It did look a bit strange didn't it, but I completely forgot about it because of the Wash thing. Totally surprised and shocked me. For me that was where it really went up a notch. The huge Reaver/Alliance blockbuster raised it up loads, but seeing Wash die really made the final act tense, since I really had no idea who was going to live. i was on edge for about 25 minutes.
QUOTE (maian @ Oct 14 2005, 10:23 AM)
It did look a bit strange didn't it, but I completely forgot about it because of the Wash thing. Totally surprised and shocked me. For me that was where it really went up a notch. The huge Reaver/Alliance blockbuster raised it up loads, but seeing Wash die really made the final act tense, since I really had no idea who was going to live. i was on edge for about 25 minutes.
Honestly, there was a point in the last half an hour where I though "He is going to do it. He is going to kill all of them off" I am glad that he didn't though!
QUOTE (ella @ Oct 14 2005, 10:25 AM)
Honestly, there was a point in the last half an hour where I though "He is going to do it. He is going to kill all of them off" I am glad that he didn't though!
I was actually really surprised that River survived. When she got dragged off by the Reaver's I thought ''Oh God, that's it. Joss has killed her now that she's served her purpose'' so when she was shown totally killing them I was surprised and nearly cheered along. I'm glad that only a few characters died, but it seemed quite close for a moment.
I feel really sorry for anyone who hasn't seen the film yet and is only seeing huge blocks of black in this thread!
QUOTE (maian @ Oct 14 2005, 11:29 AM)
I was actually really surprised that River survived. When she got dragged off by the Reaver's I thought ''Oh God, that's it. Joss has killed her now that she's served her purpose'' so when she was shown totally killing them I was surprised and nearly cheered along. I'm glad that only a few characters died, but it seemed quite close for a moment.
I feel really sorry for anyone who hasn't seen the film yet and is only seeing huge blocks of black in this thread!
I feel really sorry for anyone who hasn't seen the film yet and is only seeing huge blocks of black in this thread!
Screw 'em! They should have seen it by now anyway!
Hoban 'Wash' Washburne 100%
Oh, PINCH me!
Oh, PINCH me!
QUOTE (Woobus @ Oct 14 2005, 06:40 PM)
Oh, PINCH me!
Alright, come here then...
QUOTE (ipse dixit @ Oct 14 2005, 07:57 PM)
Alright, come here then...
If he was really Wash, I'm betting you'd do a wee bit more than that............
Now, any Kaylees out there need a pinch? I don't run off batteries.
Fear me, good people, for I am The Operative.
You are dedicated to your job and very good at what you do. You've done some very bad things, but they had to be done. You don't expect to go to heaven, but that is a sacrifice you've made for a better future for all.
Hmmm, nice. I'm intrigued to note that I am equal percentage Shepherd Book too.
Work that one out.
The Operative - 75%
Shepherd Derrial Book - 75%
Zoe Alleyne Washburne - 69%
Simon Tam - 56%
Hoban 'Wash' Washburne - 50%
River Tam - 50%
Capt. Mal Reynolds - 44%
Kaylee Frye - 44%
Inara Serra - 38%
Jayne Cobb - 19%
You are dedicated to your job and very good at what you do. You've done some very bad things, but they had to be done. You don't expect to go to heaven, but that is a sacrifice you've made for a better future for all.
Hmmm, nice. I'm intrigued to note that I am equal percentage Shepherd Book too.
Work that one out. The Operative - 75%
Shepherd Derrial Book - 75%
Zoe Alleyne Washburne - 69%
Simon Tam - 56%
Hoban 'Wash' Washburne - 50%
River Tam - 50%
Capt. Mal Reynolds - 44%
Kaylee Frye - 44%
Inara Serra - 38%
Jayne Cobb - 19%
QUOTE (gulfcoast_highwayman @ Oct 14 2005, 07:03 PM)
any Kaylees out there need a pinch? I don't run off batteries.
Bit feisty tonight, aren't you?
I'm all excited because Leeds Rhinos are in the Grand Final tomorrow.
QUOTE (ella @ Oct 14 2005, 11:25 AM)
Honestly, there was a point in the last half an hour where I though "He is going to do it. He is going to kill all of them off" I am glad that he didn't though!
me too - that's what made the end of the movie so god damned good.
QUOTE (Woobus @ Oct 14 2005, 07:40 PM)
Hoban 'Wash' Washburne 100%
Oh, PINCH me!
Oh, PINCH me!
QUOTE (ipse dixit @ Oct 14 2005, 07:57 PM)
Alright, come here then...
Careful with that one, ipse. He bites.
Anyone know where I can get the first series the cheapest?
I think HMV are doing them quite cheap, if you have an NUS card then you get it even cheaper.
Hooray! I can finally mouseover the spoiler bits!
Great film. Prefer the series, the script could have been snappier and Wash seemed pretty underused (apart from the, you know, dying thing) but apart from that, hugely enjoyable. And hot damn it was good to see half-naked Malcolm and half-naked Simon on the big screen.
Great film. Prefer the series, the script could have been snappier and Wash seemed pretty underused (apart from the, you know, dying thing) but apart from that, hugely enjoyable. And hot damn it was good to see half-naked Malcolm and half-naked Simon on the big screen.
QUOTE (Stella MM @ Oct 15 2005, 07:47 PM)
And hot damn it was good to see half-naked Malcolm
I believe I uttered an audible "GUH" in the silent theatre on that one. My friends were very amused.
QUOTE (Julie @ Oct 16 2005, 02:35 AM)
I believe I uttered an audible "GUH" in the silent theatre on that one. My friends were very amused.
Me too - especially the ending sequence. did you see Simon's arms? *thud*
Anyway, as promised, after much pestering of my friend, here are the pics of the evening she met them and hung out getting drunk. *jealous*
Apparently Alan had just dared my friend's friend to eat a whole glass of olives and cherries, and she did it so he is doubled over laughing.
(My friend Sarah is the hot blonde on the far right and my friend Mike, her boyfriend, is the guy next to her.)
I think my spleen just exploded from a rapid overproduction of black, black, blackest of black bile. JEAAAAAAAAALOUS!!!!!
*especially of the redhead getting a snot facial from Nathan*
*especially of the redhead getting a snot facial from Nathan*
Lordy! Lucky, lucky, lucky lucky, lucky people. How did they meet them?
And more, importantly, can you get me Nathan Fillon's number? I haven't had a fangirl crush like this since a cetain bleached blonde vampire.
And more, importantly, can you get me Nathan Fillon's number? I haven't had a fangirl crush like this since a cetain bleached blonde vampire.
Oh, balls. My opportunity to snag that for you came and went, Stells. (Although there's no guarantee I wouldn't have kept it for myself. Or at the very least copied it onto my Rolodex before sending. )
Picked up the Serenity Visual Companion at a deep discount at Barnes & Noble yesterday. FUN! Great, lengthy Joss interview inside, lots of photos (including the aforementioned ha'nekkid Cap'n), the complete script and this very very cool diagram of the planets in the 'verse. (Warning, it's a big'un):
The vast majority of which were never mentioned in Serenity and most only in passing in Firefly, but I'm such a dork for this kind of stuff.
(I wonder if there's a record for the number of coffee table books one can own?)
)Picked up the Serenity Visual Companion at a deep discount at Barnes & Noble yesterday. FUN! Great, lengthy Joss interview inside, lots of photos (including the aforementioned ha'nekkid Cap'n), the complete script and this very very cool diagram of the planets in the 'verse. (Warning, it's a big'un):
The vast majority of which were never mentioned in Serenity and most only in passing in Firefly, but I'm such a dork for this kind of stuff.
(I wonder if there's a record for the number of coffee table books one can own?)
QUOTE (widowspider @ Oct 16 2005, 04:57 PM)
Oh, they're fabulous pics - even I'm jealous! Looks like fun.
Anyway - onto the main event. We saw Serenity on Saturday night.
Well gosh - it was rather good.
However... killing off Wash was devastating. Sure it was a brave move, perfectly highlighting the meaningless death that can occur in war time, but I don't even want to give Whedon credit for that. It meant the entire film was ruined for me. What had been a very entertaining, brilliantly made and emotional movie was thoroughly spoiled. After what could have been a triumphant and exhilarating experience, I went away depressed.
They could have killed almost anyone else, and it would have seemed like they died honourably, and for the cause, but not Wash. That was just cruel. To the audience and to his character. I think it will even put a nagative slant on watching the series again, and may mean I might not see the movie a second time.
Gaaah. I just typed out a whole post and then accidentally exited Explorer. Here's a shortened version:
I didn't understand why Wash had to die at that point and in that manner. It would have made no difference, so far as I could see, to the tension during the crew's last stand against the Reavers for him to be there as well. I would have feared for the characters just as much. I almost hope that Joss employs some massively cheesy revivification plot device if he makes another Serenity film because it just wouldn't be the same without Wash.
I didn't understand why Wash had to die at that point and in that manner. It would have made no difference, so far as I could see, to the tension during the crew's last stand against the Reavers for him to be there as well. I would have feared for the characters just as much. I almost hope that Joss employs some massively cheesy revivification plot device if he makes another Serenity film because it just wouldn't be the same without Wash.
QUOTE (Stella MM @ Oct 17 2005, 10:52 AM)
It would have made no difference
I agree Stells.
One explanation I heard (from ipse) is that Alan Tudyk asked to be written out. This at least gives a reason for Wash's death, if not in the context of the film. If that was the case, I don't feel quite so cheated by it, but if not, it was utterly pointless, serving only to numb me for the entire final act.
Yes, I wondered if it was Alan Tudyk's idea rather than Joss's. If that was the case, like you say, it would be understandable, though a bit odd.
That was a complete guess from me, I've not heard that anywhere.
I'm devastated.
I'm devastated.
QUOTE (ipse dixit @ Oct 17 2005, 01:41 PM)
That was a complete guess from me, I've not heard that anywhere.
Oh, I see. Well, it was my first thought as well.
This is my second attempt at this post cos I wrote it out early but these crappy mice at my Union have easily pressed 'Back' and 'Forward' buttons and I lost it all before having to go to a lecture. As such it isn't as good as the original but I'll try my best.
I felt that Wash's death was essential to the film in order to really wrack up the tension in the last half an hour. Certainly there would have been tension if Kaylee, or Jayne or any other character had died, but Wash was the perfect character to die dramatically. He was the only innocent, he had nothing to do with any war, he was just doing his job and flying the ship, he was also the only one in a stable relationship and was the one who had the most to lose on a personal level. His death showed that no one was safe at all, if one of the most popular characters, the funny happy-go-lucky guy could die, who was safe? The fact that ultimately he was the only casualty in that final part meant didn't stop it from being unbelievably tense.
I've still not gotten over it to be honest. I watched a few episodes of the series teh next day and I couldn't help but feel immensely sad whenever he was on screen.
I felt that Wash's death was essential to the film in order to really wrack up the tension in the last half an hour. Certainly there would have been tension if Kaylee, or Jayne or any other character had died, but Wash was the perfect character to die dramatically. He was the only innocent, he had nothing to do with any war, he was just doing his job and flying the ship, he was also the only one in a stable relationship and was the one who had the most to lose on a personal level. His death showed that no one was safe at all, if one of the most popular characters, the funny happy-go-lucky guy could die, who was safe? The fact that ultimately he was the only casualty in that final part meant didn't stop it from being unbelievably tense.
I've still not gotten over it to be honest. I watched a few episodes of the series teh next day and I couldn't help but feel immensely sad whenever he was on screen.
QUOTE (Stella MM @ Oct 16 2005, 08:26 PM)
Lordy! Lucky, lucky, lucky lucky, lucky people. How did they meet them?
And more, importantly, can you get me Nathan Fillon's number? I haven't had a fangirl crush like this since a cetain bleached blonde vampire.
And more, importantly, can you get me Nathan Fillon's number? I haven't had a fangirl crush like this since a cetain bleached blonde vampire.
I wish - if she had gotten it, I would have stolen it from her for myself.
Wedding ring? What wedding ring? *looks innocent*
QUOTE (maian @ Oct 17 2005, 05:40 PM)
This is my second attempt at this post cos I wrote it out early but these crappy mice at my Union have easily pressed 'Back' and 'Forward' buttons and I lost it all before having to go to a lecture. As such it isn't as good as the original but I'll try my best.
I felt that Wash's death was essential to the film in order to really wrack up the tension in the last half an hour. Certainly there would have been tension if Kaylee, or Jayne or any other character had died, but Wash was the perfect character to die dramatically. He was the only innocent, he had nothing to do with any war, he was just doing his job and flying the ship, he was also the only one in a stable relationship and was the one who had the most to lose on a personal level. His death showed that no one was safe at all, if one of the most popular characters, the funny happy-go-lucky guy could die, who was safe? The fact that ultimately he was the only casualty in that final part meant didn't stop it from being unbelievably tense.
I've still not gotten over it to be honest. I watched a few episodes of the series teh next day and I couldn't help but feel immensely sad whenever he was on screen.
I felt that Wash's death was essential to the film in order to really wrack up the tension in the last half an hour. Certainly there would have been tension if Kaylee, or Jayne or any other character had died, but Wash was the perfect character to die dramatically. He was the only innocent, he had nothing to do with any war, he was just doing his job and flying the ship, he was also the only one in a stable relationship and was the one who had the most to lose on a personal level. His death showed that no one was safe at all, if one of the most popular characters, the funny happy-go-lucky guy could die, who was safe? The fact that ultimately he was the only casualty in that final part meant didn't stop it from being unbelievably tense.
I've still not gotten over it to be honest. I watched a few episodes of the series teh next day and I couldn't help but feel immensely sad whenever he was on screen.
I completely agree - for me, killing Wash was the most masterful piece of writing Joss did. By killing the most gentle, lovable and funny character, he stunned the entire audience and made everyone think 'oh my god. He's going to kill them all off'. There was not one moment until after the ninja River bit that made me think any of them were going to survive, which made it a fantastically tense and almost unwatchable ending. I'm still devastated, but I admire the choice. Any new Firefly series or movies will have to resurrect him somehow, though! It's just not the same without Wash.
QUOTE (widowspider @ Oct 14 2005, 08:00 PM)
Careful with that one, ipse. He bites.
Only by request! It's an important distinction!
QUOTE (widowspider @ Oct 17 2005, 05:49 PM)
I completely agree - for me, killing Wash was the most masterful piece of writing Joss did. By killing the most gentle, lovable and funny character, he stunned the entire audience and made everyone think 'oh my god. He's going to kill them all off'. There was not one moment until after the ninja River bit that made me think any of them were going to survive, which made it a fantastically tense and almost unwatchable ending. I'm still devastated, but I admire the choice. Any new Firefly series or movies will have to resurrect him somehow, though! It's just not the same without Wash.
I don't agree - from that point onwards I was in a state of shock, hardly able to care for any of the other characters. I almost would have prefered them all to die and sacrifice themselves. Like I said before, I understand why it was an admirable and bold choice, but I'm pissed off at Whedon for doing it.
Serenity in 2000 words or less: very funny and spoilertastic.
QUOTE (Chapman Baxter @ Oct 18 2005, 09:25 AM)
Serenity in 2000 words or less[/url]: very funny and spoilertastic.
Whedon, you bastard! is probably the best and most accurate line.
QUOTE (Chapman Baxter @ Oct 18 2005, 09:25 AM)
That was brilliant, cheers CB!!!! I'm gonna have look around that site a bit more m'thinks.Sefi x
Fantastic. Very pithy.
Very pithy.
Love that version
Funniest bit:
FANS WHO ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN BECAUSE JOSS WHEDON IS OUR MASTER NOW: (singing along)
"Take my Book, Take my Wash, kick me right smack in the crotch,
I don't care, cause I'll still see, this film Whedon made for me!"
Funniest bit:
FANS WHO ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN BECAUSE JOSS WHEDON IS OUR MASTER NOW: (singing along)
"Take my Book, Take my Wash, kick me right smack in the crotch,
I don't care, cause I'll still see, this film Whedon made for me!"
Excellent stuff, tres amusant.
I must say that I too was absolutely gobsmacked at Wash's demise - a devastating loss... no more wisecracks, no more wacky fun, waaah! - but for the emotional impact it gave the closing segment of the film it was a masterstroke, and an exceptionally brave move on Whedon's part. It gave a bittersweet taste to the denouement, and as much as I was gutted to see Wash written out in such a brutally abrupt fashion, I have to say I admire Whedon for taking such a radical risk. As I said before, Serenity pushed all the buttons and tugged all the strings. I was especially moved by the ambiguity of Zoe and Mal's exchange right at the end: "She's banged up pretty bad, but she'll fly true" (or something like that); it further highlighted what an incredibly strong character Zoe is, one that I had kind of overlooked throughout the series.
I must say that I too was absolutely gobsmacked at Wash's demise - a devastating loss... no more wisecracks, no more wacky fun, waaah! - but for the emotional impact it gave the closing segment of the film it was a masterstroke, and an exceptionally brave move on Whedon's part. It gave a bittersweet taste to the denouement, and as much as I was gutted to see Wash written out in such a brutally abrupt fashion, I have to say I admire Whedon for taking such a radical risk. As I said before, Serenity pushed all the buttons and tugged all the strings. I was especially moved by the ambiguity of Zoe and Mal's exchange right at the end: "She's banged up pretty bad, but she'll fly true" (or something like that); it further highlighted what an incredibly strong character Zoe is, one that I had kind of overlooked throughout the series.
Am i wrong in thinking that I heard Serenity was going to be the first of 3 films? I do hope so and it seems to have met with reasonable success which is usually more than enough to guarentee another installment. If so where will it go? Back in time for Books past? Perhaps a wartime film?? Ooh the possibilities are endless. Where would you have the next film go?
I'd like the next film to be about Book's past, but not solely about it. Sure it'd be great to discover it but it's a subject that would have been better covered in the series over an epsiode or two, so I'd like them to explore it, but I'd prefer if it wasn't the main point of the film.
Not really a spoiler as such but I don't want to run the risk of giving anything away.
Not really a spoiler as such but I don't want to run the risk of giving anything away.
QUOTE (maian @ Oct 18 2005, 11:06 AM)
I'd like the next film to be about Book's past, but not solely about it. Sure it'd be great to discover it but it's a subject that would have been better covered in the series over an epsiode or two, so I'd like them to explore it, but I'd prefer if it wasn't the main point of the film.
Agreed, that'd be cool. I'd like to know a bit more about him - the reaction he got from the Alliance in Firefly was never explained.
Hehe, the song at the end of the Swartzer thing is quality.
QUOTE (Jubei @ Oct 18 2005, 11:41 AM)
Love that version
Funniest bit:
FANS WHO ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN BECAUSE JOSS WHEDON IS OUR MASTER NOW: (singing along)
"Take my Book, Take my Wash, kick me right smack in the crotch,
I don't care, cause I'll still see, this film Whedon made for me!"
Funniest bit:
FANS WHO ARE GOING TO SEE THIS AGAIN BECAUSE JOSS WHEDON IS OUR MASTER NOW: (singing along)
"Take my Book, Take my Wash, kick me right smack in the crotch,
I don't care, cause I'll still see, this film Whedon made for me!"
That is brilliant.
Did you all catch Joss post the other day about there not being possible sequels???
This was original posted on the yank board....
luvs nix
This was original posted on the yank board....
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Posted: 14 Oct 2005 10:18 am
Post subject: Joss made a post from typings!
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Hello, young lovers, wherever you are. This is Joss, coming to you live via technology. I thought it would be fair to give you all my little State of the Onion before I descend into the depths of the Warren to pound away at my keyboard, munch lettuce and ignore that annoying nerd Fiver who keeps saying something bad is coming, like he can tell or whatever. I'm excited to beat this Wonder Woman script into shape (and munch lettuce). Mostly, to be honest, I'm excited to (deliberately split infinitive) not be a Professional Serenity Barker. I love you guys, I loves me some Serenity cast, but I am yammered out. By Spain it just got surreal (I think Nathan and Summer will back me on that one). Selling is not my strong suit. Actually, my strong suit is Kevlar, but it bunches in all the wrong places.
So I have read much over the past weeks: we have Won! Lost! Triumphed! Failed! and have, of course, agreed with every single thing I read (one of the exhausting things about having no personality). But in the dark blue of early morning I do have some perspective, and it runs thus:
I'm very content. I think the movie is really good. That was hard to a)do and b) realize. The response has been terrific, the majority of the reviews extremely positive: people GOT IT. What's more, an impressive number of people saw this movie who never would have, and even more still will. This is not spin: I know we didn't do the expected numbers our first weekend, we didn't have an unprecedentedly small drop-off the second (which was my personal fantasy.) I've been to some dark places, just like you guys. But the movie has legs, and people who loved it LOVED it crazy, the way love is supposed to be. Europe has been a nice boost (and a lung-splitting shout out to my UK and Aussie UIPeeps -- they're dears, and efficient as hell). We'll keep soldiering on, until we can't crawl and we find DVD to carry us. I see us kind of like the Shawshank Redemption without all the Oscar nominations (unless Best Feet becomes a catagory). People who were befuddled by the title or lack of premise hook will finally pick it up, and keep picking it up... They may miss out on the big-screen exitement, but they'll see our little tale and take it to their hearts. Takes a while. Just like the show.
I've seen a couple of posts with Browncoats beating themselves up about not having done enough. I never want to hear that again. You guys have gone above and beyond above and beyond. The people who are above and beyond are looking at you guys and going "Man, don't they ever quit?" Your efforts, and your investment (emotional as well as tickety) have done an enormous amount for this film and my battered heart. No more self-flagellation, unless it's the healthy, what-every-young-person-needs-to-learn-about-their-body kind.
And what about Da Fyoocha? (And why did I need Arnold to say that?) I have no idea. It could be that this tale is told. Or it could be that down the line, dollars accumulate and some exec says, "let's spin that wheel again." Or who knows. I'm not resting my hopes on it, but it's not a concept I'll ever close the book on. In case the 30,000 reporters I told didn't get this message out, I love this crew like Nick loves Nora, like Hellboy loves Pancakes, like Bridgitte loves Bernie (and if you're old enough to get that reference, my condolences.)
Thank you all. I'll be in touch again, but I have an Amazon to rassle. Remember that this is not over; every dollar (or Euro) counts, every new convert is a friend for life. But don't fret too much on what's to come. Enjoy the remarkable things we've accomplished. You're Big Damn Fans. Have some lettuce.
All love, Joss.
Post subject: Joss made a post from typings!
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Hello, young lovers, wherever you are. This is Joss, coming to you live via technology. I thought it would be fair to give you all my little State of the Onion before I descend into the depths of the Warren to pound away at my keyboard, munch lettuce and ignore that annoying nerd Fiver who keeps saying something bad is coming, like he can tell or whatever. I'm excited to beat this Wonder Woman script into shape (and munch lettuce). Mostly, to be honest, I'm excited to (deliberately split infinitive) not be a Professional Serenity Barker. I love you guys, I loves me some Serenity cast, but I am yammered out. By Spain it just got surreal (I think Nathan and Summer will back me on that one). Selling is not my strong suit. Actually, my strong suit is Kevlar, but it bunches in all the wrong places.
So I have read much over the past weeks: we have Won! Lost! Triumphed! Failed! and have, of course, agreed with every single thing I read (one of the exhausting things about having no personality). But in the dark blue of early morning I do have some perspective, and it runs thus:
I'm very content. I think the movie is really good. That was hard to a)do and b) realize. The response has been terrific, the majority of the reviews extremely positive: people GOT IT. What's more, an impressive number of people saw this movie who never would have, and even more still will. This is not spin: I know we didn't do the expected numbers our first weekend, we didn't have an unprecedentedly small drop-off the second (which was my personal fantasy.) I've been to some dark places, just like you guys. But the movie has legs, and people who loved it LOVED it crazy, the way love is supposed to be. Europe has been a nice boost (and a lung-splitting shout out to my UK and Aussie UIPeeps -- they're dears, and efficient as hell). We'll keep soldiering on, until we can't crawl and we find DVD to carry us. I see us kind of like the Shawshank Redemption without all the Oscar nominations (unless Best Feet becomes a catagory). People who were befuddled by the title or lack of premise hook will finally pick it up, and keep picking it up... They may miss out on the big-screen exitement, but they'll see our little tale and take it to their hearts. Takes a while. Just like the show.
I've seen a couple of posts with Browncoats beating themselves up about not having done enough. I never want to hear that again. You guys have gone above and beyond above and beyond. The people who are above and beyond are looking at you guys and going "Man, don't they ever quit?" Your efforts, and your investment (emotional as well as tickety) have done an enormous amount for this film and my battered heart. No more self-flagellation, unless it's the healthy, what-every-young-person-needs-to-learn-about-their-body kind.
And what about Da Fyoocha? (And why did I need Arnold to say that?) I have no idea. It could be that this tale is told. Or it could be that down the line, dollars accumulate and some exec says, "let's spin that wheel again." Or who knows. I'm not resting my hopes on it, but it's not a concept I'll ever close the book on. In case the 30,000 reporters I told didn't get this message out, I love this crew like Nick loves Nora, like Hellboy loves Pancakes, like Bridgitte loves Bernie (and if you're old enough to get that reference, my condolences.)
Thank you all. I'll be in touch again, but I have an Amazon to rassle. Remember that this is not over; every dollar (or Euro) counts, every new convert is a friend for life. But don't fret too much on what's to come. Enjoy the remarkable things we've accomplished. You're Big Damn Fans. Have some lettuce.
All love, Joss.
luvs nix
I did. Didn't phase me much because, if we're going to be realistic, the chance that this would be the end of the Firefly saga has been looming large all along. So I've had that in my mind, even while mulling over what great sequel opportunities there could be. He doesn't sound terribly fatalistic yet, so there's a faint glimmer of hope, but still...
And THANKS, Joss, I totally got the Bridgette and Bernie reference and now I'm going to go cry.
And THANKS, Joss, I totally got the Bridgette and Bernie reference and now I'm going to go cry.
As much as I want to see more and find out more about the characters and relationships and all that la de da, I honestly care less now that Wash is gone. You can point and shake your heads at me for being so easily swayed, but it's true. I have honestly never been so upset at the death of a character.
I might have to second that Ipse. I was trying to figure out why I cared so damn little about the movie, like from an emotional standpoint. I get very attached to these things usually. I loved it, don't get me wrong, but I think that may have numbed me to it.
I was surprised at myself, really. I'm generally renowned among friends for being a cold-hearted bitch in my viewing, but I could barely raise a smile at the jokes for the rest of the film.
QUOTE (Julie @ Oct 18 2005, 09:35 PM)
I might have to second that Ipse
I third it.
Nice new sig ya got there, Ipse.
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