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innercitysumo
I was just wondering if anyone else here was fan's of the band, or if they believe the band is one of the true exponents of pomposity and 'over-blown' music from the prog-rock pre-punk era. I myself would say that other bands, such as Yes, hold up to these, but that Pink Floyd still have something to them which keeps them legends in music.....


Anyone?.....
WHAPANG!
QUOTE (innercitysumo @ Jan 3 2005, 09:10 PM)
I was just wondering if anyone else here was fan's of the band, or if they believe the band is one of the true exponents of pomposity and 'over-blown' music from the prog-rock pre-punk era. I myself would say that other bands, such as Yes, hold up to these, but that Pink Floyd still have something to them which keeps them legends in music.....
Anyone?.....
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Yeah i like it
- Dan of Whapang!

No we havent heard much of their stuff
- Jen and Hat of Whapang!
Emmae
gotta love the floyd.

i was completely blown away by the film The Wall.
whixie
Yes, I'm fan!
Rob Wells
QUOTE (whixie @ Jan 3 2005, 11:08 PM)
Yes, I'm fan!
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Yes, I'm a fan too, and a Yes fan.

Animals was my favourite album all through my teenage years... Ahhh, the memories. I'm seventy-eight now.
Jessopjessopjessop
Yes, I'm loving the Floyd. 'Dark Side of the Moon' has to be my favourite album, and I'm partial to 'The Delicate Sound of Thunder' live CDs, along with 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' and 'The Dvision Bell'. I'm not too keen on the Sid Barratt days, but then I tend not to like any music from the 60s.
tameblue
Big fan of Pink Floyd...especially Dark Side of the Moon, which got me through my A-Levels....but I can honestly say the worst four hours of my life were spent watching various Pink Floyd cover bands in this tribute concert thing near Uttoxeter.

Of particular note were two Sarah Brightman type banshees banging out "Shine on you Crazy Diamond"...magic.



Probably lesbians.....but not the nice type.
Blind I/O
I like both Pink Floyd and Yes, the latter somewhat less than the former though. I tend to prefer The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, which seems under-mentioned in every Floyd discussion I've witnessed, but it's certainly followed closely by Delicate Sound of Thunder cool.gif
Sostie
I like a lot of their stuff. "The Wall" is my favourite album, "See Emily Play" fave track...for the moment. Can't recall much after The Wall that was any good
spookytwigg
I've only got Dark side of the moon (and one of the live albums on vinyl.. but i dn;t really listen to that much) But I really love what I've heard.

Personally though.... if you're looking for prog bands, Rush are always my first choice.
ronlogan1977
They're alright. I very rarely listen to them.
philt
I'm a fan as well. Although I wouldn't really describe Pink Floyd as being a prog rock band.

Pink Floyd never made great play of their "virtuousity" unlike other bands of the period however as they produced long atomspheric soundscapes they were stuck in the same pigeon hole as Yes, ELP, King Crimson and Genesis. Pink Floyd don't sound like any of the bands I mentioned. Pink Floyd are probable the best / first exponent of ambient rock rather than prog rock.

BTW really like Yes and Rush as well.
Rob Wells
QUOTE (spookytwigg @ Jan 4 2005, 07:44 PM)
Personally though.... if you're looking for prog bands, Rush are always my first choice.
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Neither Pink Floyd nor Rush are prog rock.
Blind I/O
QUOTE (philt @ Jan 5 2005, 09:55 PM)
I wouldn't really describe Pink Floyd as being a prog rock band.
Pink Floyd are probable the best / first exponent of ambient rock rather than prog rock.


QUOTE (Rob Wells @ Jan 5 2005, 10:30 PM)
Neither Pink Floyd nor Rush are prog rock.


Glad you both mentioned that smile.gif

[woohoo... two pints barman]
The Mekon
Tis' weird, I've only just finished watching the Floyd 'Pulse'-Live video I own, just before coming on here. Not long had my 5.1 surround and spied the vid on my shelf and wondered what the music would be like coming from my woofer speaker for some dirty bass.....Awesome!
Ohio_is_for_lovers
Gotta love pink floyd biggrin.gif
D-Rock
QUOTE (Rob Wells @ Jan 5 2005, 05:30 PM)
Neither Pink Floyd nor Rush are prog rock.
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I always considered Rush to be prog.
Rob Wells
QUOTE (D-Rock @ Jan 10 2005, 04:40 PM)
I always considered Rush to be prog.
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Really? Fair enough, but they're not.
Jollyjaffaman
Must admit old Pink lost his bite when RW left. Great band though. Inspired many a book cover though, eh Robbo?


JJM biggrin.gif
philt
actually if you want to hear what the Floy really sound like you should invest in the 30th Anniversary Edition - buy a SACD player, plug it into a compatible amp and be amazed at its surround sound glory

Particularly at the end of Brain Damage when you can hear music from the studio next door leaking through.

Yip SACD is that good
innercitysumo
I bought the 30th Anniversary Dark Side LP in 2003. Does it feature the same mix as the SACD version or is it the older mix still?
spacemonkey
Haven't a clue on that one, what's you're favourite album, mine has to be Wish You Were Here, which is just great,

Come up here have a cigar you're gonna go far biggrin.gif
innercitysumo
Dark Side, Wish You Were Here or maybe Animals even if the tracks are too long....
Badger
QUOTE (Rob Wells @ Jan 5 2005, 10:30 PM)
Neither Pink Floyd nor Rush are prog rock.
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So what are they then?

Anyway, Floyd seem to have mantained the same standard throughout their work, but Yes have really lost the plot recently. Open Your Eyes was pretty bad, and Magnification was a piece of wee.

Marillion are the tops though. Even if they are more sort of a Jazz-Prog-Dance-Rock-Ambient-Thrash-Opera-Ska-Rock band these days.
Username
Who is this... Pink Floyd? rolleyes.gif
Blind I/O
QUOTE (Username @ Feb 13 2005, 10:37 AM)
Who is this... Pink Floyd? rolleyes.gif


I really hope that's some kind of Colonial humour laugh.gif
innercitysumo
QUOTE (Badger @ Feb 13 2005, 09:58 AM)
So what are they then?

Anyway, Floyd seem to have mantained the same standard throughout their work, but Yes have really lost the plot recently.  Open Your Eyes was pretty bad, and Magnification was a piece of wee.

Marillion are the tops though.  Even if they are more sort of a Jazz-Prog-Dance-Rock-Ambient-Thrash-Opera-Ska-Rock band these days.
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Pink Floyd aren't prog rock, just mistaken for it because they display some signs associated with it, just as Radiohead aren't Britpop and The Darkness aren't 'metal' as I heard them be called described once....Besides, Pink Floyd survived the Punk movement which was meant to sweep away all the crappy 'Rick Wakeman prog rock' that is nowadays seen as being very pretentious. Pink Floyd aren't that pretentious, except maybe in the way they did 20 minute long tracks sometimes, but that doesn't make them the same as the other bands who wrote shit about fairies and stuff.
Badger
I've never thought it's pretentious to write a 20 minute song. If it takes 20 minutes to do it right, then that's how long it takes. Is classical music pretentious, or Freebird?

Actually, it could be, I guess.
Blind I/O
QUOTE (innercitysumo @ Feb 13 2005, 01:55 PM)
...but that doesn't make them the same as the other bands who wrote shit about fairies and stuff...


Ignoring The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, of course. The Gnome, anyone?
philt
QUOTE (innercitysumo @ Feb 8 2005, 10:03 PM)
I bought the 30th Anniversary Dark Side LP in 2003. Does it feature the same mix as the SACD version or is it the older mix still?
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it's been remixed and remastered for the higher definition that SACD can carry. it's also been remixed for 5.1 surround.

As for prog being about pixies etc. Then by that logic Yes are'nt prog. But Led Zep are...
mngene
QUOTE (innercitysumo @ Feb 13 2005, 05:55 AM)
Pink Floyd aren't prog rock, just mistaken for it because they display some signs associated with it, just as Radiohead aren't Britpop and The Darkness aren't 'metal' as I heard them be called described once....Besides, Pink Floyd survived the Punk movement which was meant to sweep away all the crappy 'Rick Wakeman prog rock' that is nowadays seen as being very pretentious. Pink Floyd aren't that pretentious, except maybe in the way they did 20 minute long tracks sometimes, but that doesn't make them the same as the other bands who wrote shit about fairies and stuff.
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Nah, they were just dropping too many doses and smokin too much.
D-Rock
QUOTE (Rob Wells @ Jan 10 2005, 07:38 PM)
Really?  Fair enough, but they're not.
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They had a lot of time changes, chord progressions and all of the other stuff that goes with being progressive. They're not AS progressive as say, King Crimson, but they are somewhat progressive. mellow.gif
Jessopjessopjessop
QUOTE (philt @ Feb 7 2005, 10:51 PM)
actually if you want to hear what the Floy really sound like you should invest in the 30th Anniversary Edition - buy a SACD player, plug it into a compatible amp and be amazed at its surround sound glory

Particularly at the end of Brain Damage when you can hear music from the studio next door leaking through.

Yip SACD is that good
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Wow - that sounds (pardon the pun) amazing! Sadly, such technological marvels are beyond both my mental capabilities and my wallet.
42/24
The Floyd are great and I have the utmost respect for them. It's a tough call to say if they're overblown or not. I think the music that's out there by the band, like most of the tracks off DSOTM and a-lot from wish you were here are overblown and somewhat overplayed. But on the other hand, the floyd have so many amazing tracks to their name that don't get the recognition they deserve. I mean, with DSOTM with 700 something weeks on the billboard top 200 alone; they are legends, regardless if they're overblown or not.
Ell
QUOTE (42/24 @ Feb 24 2005, 01:54 AM)
The Floyd are great and I have the utmost respect for them.  It's a tough call to say if they're overblown or not.  I think the music that's out there by the band, like most of the tracks off DSOTM and a-lot from wish you were here are overblown and somewhat overplayed.  But on the other hand, the floyd have so many amazing tracks to their name that don't get the recognition they deserve.  I mean, with DSOTM with 700 something weeks on the billboard top 200 alone; they are legends, regardless if they're overblown or not.
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Agreed, P1n|< F|0yd 4|23 Teh R0x0r!
Omniscia
QUOTE (innercitysumo @ Feb 13 2005, 09:55 AM)
Besides, Pink Floyd survived the Punk movement which was meant to sweep away all the crappy 'Rick Wakeman prog rock' that is nowadays seen as being very pretentious.
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'ey, man, what'cha got against Wakey? tongue.gif

Sure, his later stuff is pretty damn irrelevant, but I still listen to "The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table" on a fairly regular basis. If only that album had better vocalists...

As for the whole "Is Rush prog or not?" debate, which has been raging for nearly 30 years now, I will grant that while they're not a full-fledged prog outfit, they certainly co-opted their fair share of prog flourishes and pretensions. If anything, they're (at least, their earlier incarnation is) somewhat of a "gateway band" into the world of outfits dealing in sidelong tracks with hokey fantasy lyrics sung in falsetto by long-haired, costumed men.

Of course, the "prog" bands of recent memory have been taking a page from the Marillion book, and attempting to fuse that symphonic-rock style pioneered by Yes, Genesis, et al, with modern-by-80s-standards pop sensibilities. Either that or they're all trying to copy Dream Theater.

It's still woefully pretentious stuff, but hey, I like it. tongue.gif

But this is supposed to be about Pink Floyd... While they definitely share musical roots with a lot of the prog progenitors, whether they are prog or not depends on just how wide your definition is. Whatever the case, it's still damn fine music.
mngene
has anyone actually dosed and watched Wizard of Oz to Dark Side of the Moon. I hear it links up perfectly and helps the peak.
Omniscia
QUOTE (mngene @ Feb 24 2005, 01:06 AM)
has anyone actually dosed and watched Wizard of Oz to Dark Side of the Moon. I hear it links up perfectly and helps the peak.
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Never dosed and done that, but we did have to do that whole "Dark Side of Oz" synchronicity thing in a high school philosophy course, taught by this well-meaning but complete and utter flake. I don't know just what I was supposed to learn, but I hope I learned it, 'cos it's too late now.
deep thought
QUOTE (mngene @ Feb 24 2005, 05:06 AM)
has anyone actually dosed and watched Wizard of Oz to Dark Side of the Moon. I hear it links up perfectly and helps the peak.
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i did that stoned... we felt like wankers and got bored but i love it when great gig in the sky and the hurricane bit go together.
and when the midgets dance.. you dont even need to be wasted to enjoy that.

im a big fan of pink floyd though. i like meddle.. and dark side. havent got into the syd barret stuff proply yet.

as for Yes... never heard them and never want to just on general principle that all yes fans are cunts. mellow.gif
sleepwalker
I was brought up listening to Pink Floyd because my mother loves them and I like them a lot. For me they're not the sort of band that can be enjoyed instantly though; the songs have to be listened to a few times before I can appreciate them.
philt
I'm a Yes fan "Deep Thought" - care to elaborate?
deep thought
QUOTE (philt @ Feb 24 2005, 12:57 PM)
I'm a Yes fan "Deep Thought" - care to elaborate?
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nah.
philt
That's what I like. People who have the courage to match their convictions
Blind I/O
An interesting point of note about Yes (for me, anyway) - Jon Anderson came from my hometown. As did Mystic Meg and Jim Bowen. And Mina Anwar, Habib from Thin Blue Line...

mellow.gif
silentreading
i luv radiohead, and i saw the thread for them..i thought i'd see where the floyd fans are...cuz this is spaced..maybe there are quite a few....i've got pretty much every album..my favourites....animals. discuss...
innercitysumo
I like them, and I'm a big fan of the Meddle- The Final Cut period, but I still like the other albums too (well maybe not A Momentary Lapse of Reason). It's kinda annoying that they won't just make one final tour/album though, but in another way I'm kinda glad they haven't done new material, as it may not be that good. I'm not saying I don't want them to tour/record again, just that it's nice that they haven't done a Stones and milked it a bit.
SkipToTheEnd
QUOTE (silentreading @ Apr 25 2005, 07:54 PM)
i luv radiohead, and i saw the thread for them..i thought i'd see where the floyd fans are...cuz this is spaced..maybe there are quite a few....i've got pretty much every album..my favourites....animals. discuss...
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I started the Radiohead thread, and i salute you as a fellow Pink Floyd admirer also. Do you think they were best with Barret, post-Barret Dark Side of the Moon era, or Waters opus The Wall?
Blind I/O
*ahem*
ronlogan1977
Bah.Not another Pink Floyd thread.
Ell
QUOTE (ronlogan1977 @ Apr 26 2005, 01:40 PM)
Bah.Not another Pink Floyd thread.
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Hehe, but come on they are a horrendously good band.
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