I can't get the fucker to work.

*Edit*
Got it working now. Okay, I'll admit it. I'm looking forward to this. A lot. Routh looks to be good as both Clark and Superman, which always seemed to be the hard thing to pull off, and the whole returning to Earth after an abscence plot thing could have some serious legs to it. The only thing is that I see a bald Kevin Spacey and I think of his brief turn as Doctor Evil in Austinpussy at the beginning of GoldMember...

Due to the revived discussion in The Last Film You Watched I though I'd bump this one.

Is anyone else really glad that Kevin Smith and JJ Abrams have not been able to write the new film as they might have done had things turned out differently? As much as I like their stuff I don't think that Smith's style of writing would really gel with Superman (I can't say so for certain but I'm fairly sure that it would have been an odd film) and I am very glad that all that polar bear/giant spider stuff has now disappeared.

Similarly, I am very glad that Abrams' version did not get made because, based on what I have heard about his script, it would have been too over-the-top and non-sensical. All the stuff about Supes dying and coming back and Luthor having super powers as well was just a bit too much (assuming that is all true and his sscript really was that insane) and Superman films work best with a distinct story. They can have a fair few things going on but not a lot of pointless twists that would piss everyone off. Lots of twists works very well in Lost because they can unveil them over several years, but try and cram it into 2 hours and people will just deride the film for it.

This is one of the main reasons why I'm very worried about Abrams taking over the next Star Trek film; if he sticks to a simple story it'll almost certainly be great, but if he keeps throwing in crazy ideas and twists then it'll just be a mess.

You can listen to the full motion picture score for Superman Returns HERE, kids!

Real Player and Windows Media Player formats.



edit: It sounds bloody brilliant.

I loved it especially the first third which I'll wrap in a big long sentence:

Starts off with Bog standard 'cannae beat it' Superman theme tune, slips into some Wild West Start, flippant soft growing-up fun in the ET stylee and gets abit Army/Predator/Lost Melody (Star 45)

It gets very melodic after that and has lots of 'moments' written in but all very nice and good. Quite relaxing really.

I'll probably listen to this all day now, cheers Ade!

-m0r

The early reviews are good. Very, very good.

*is really annoyed now that she's not more excited*

I'm not excited about this either. I read some of the reviews and by all counts this should be something I'd be jumping for, but I'm not.

Well, I'm really looking forward to it.

*jumps up and down to prove point*

So am I!

*Runs around the room and jumps up and down on the bed*

Only a week a bit until I see it (thank you well-timed sojourn to the US).

Yeah, see that's what I mean - I'm going to see it. I just wish I was more jacked about it than I am. (That first teaser, I will admit, was pretty fantastic. Put a lump in my throat. The full trailer had some bits that were "wow!" and others that were "meh")

This has nothing to do with the great X-Abandoment, either. I swear. Nothing.

I keep seeing the trailers on TV and I'm excited, but cautious.

I've thrown caution to the wind and I'm now very excited. It'll be ace, I'm sure of it.

Oh it will, I knows it. Just keep humming or whistling the Superman theme to yourselves folks, that should help 'up' the excitement quotient.

New trailer HERE

I am moist with anticipation...



and with spilling squash on myself.

Holy shit,the trailer gave me goosebumps >.>


The only thing I'm slughtly "meh" about,is the fact that most plot lines involving supes being hurt/defeated involve kryptonite(excepting the death of Superman with Doomsday),it's a bit of a stale plot device.

Still looks cool though.

I would have liked to see the Polar Bear/ Giant Spider version. It'd've been amazing.

Superb. I played the Superman theme in an orchestra once, and it was spine-tingling to perform it. Almost as orgasmic as doing the Star Wars theme. *shiver*

Woah. That's given me goosebumps just reading it.

I was lucky - we did a whole season in my old orchestra of film music, especially John Williams stuff. In one year we did Star Wars, Superman, E.T. and Indiana Jones. It's bastardly difficult to play but goosebumpingly worth it.

You do not want to know what I've got right now.

heres where you can find the Kevin Smith script. Thank god it never went ahead.
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/mov...in-smith-script

christ Jessop, heres some cream for that. nasty

Seeing it at the one and only Graumann's Chinese tonight; was going to wait until the weekend but Erik bought my ticket. Oh, okayyyy....

Woooo, nice! Indy Jones, eh? *more goosebumps*


You dirty old man.


Eeee, good stuff! Be sure to let us all know how excellent it's gonna be!

*hyperactive mad dash round the office*

Hmmm....okaaaay, how to say without giving away anything that might surprise.

It is very, very good. As good as I know Singer's capable of, yet it could have been even better - it's just shy of greatness. There are some extremely wise decisions w/ regard to style and content that set the tone of the thing at a level that quickly grasps the audience's sentiments, yet he also leaves his own stylistic stamp on it. Bold storyline choices, as well, that are bound to piss some people off but I was fine with them.

Brandon Routh acquits himself very well, given that he's basically being instructed to emulate Chris Reeve on nearly every level; he's funny and he's got a great presence, if not the same kind of gravitas that Reeve commanded. Spacey is note-perfect some times, waaaay too hammy others, but I guess he's allowed to be. (How else are you going to compete with Hackman?) Parker Posey steals every scene she's in. Was ultimately underwhelmed by Kate Bosworth - she's fine, really, she just doesn't really feel like the Lois Lane of yore in light of the evocative way they've got Routh playing the part. She's lacking a certain, oh I dunno....what is it, sass? I think it's sass. And spark. I would have loved to see what someone like Zooey Deschanel would have done with the part.

Anyway, overall a very pleasant experience. Given that I wasn't actively looking forward to it, I had a great time. And now I'll shut up till more have seen.

Eeee, thanks for that, Helens!

The next fortnight is so going to drag...

I don't want to get into a long discussion about this but I'll just say; no, it fucking wouldn't. It would have been uber-shit.

Ahhh, but would it have been so shit it would have been great? That's the question.

Go and watch Wild Wild West, then report back to us.

I'm going for this.

You have to admit it'd've been quite a spectical to see at the cinema.

It wasn't when they used the idea in Wild Wild West, it would have been less impressive when Superman dismantled it in about 12 seconds if he had to fight it.

Or The Incredibles, for that matter.

That wasn't really a spider and it was only onscreen for about 15 minutes. The giant spider was the entire last act of Wild Wild West and it didn't really work.

I think "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnother fucking six weeks until the movie starts in Germany! World Ain't fair!"

I thought it was going to be a real giant spider.

So take 1 part Wild Wild West (giant mechanical spider) add 1 part Lost (unexplained nonsensical polar bear) add 1 iconic hero take away iconic heros main ability and iconic outfit....


So, we're agreed it would have been shit, but would it have been so shit it would be great, or not quite shit enough for that. Like Stealth.

So shit it's funny.

I know, I know. I was thinking more about the dismantling part. Dismantling whilst wearing tights.



So we can all agree that unless it's Lord of the Rings, giant spiders of any kind = shit?

Saw it today. Fucking loved it!

As a result of watching the original superman movie on Sky the other day, me and my freinds were discussing if 'infinite speed' as supermans dad (cant remember the names) says that he will be capable of, as he is travelling off to earth.

Anyway, this is probably going to be a really boring post, so skip it. But if anyone knows much about physics, then help us out.

What it was, was my freind whos studying engineering of some sort at university, and did a level physics, says that if superman, or anything could do infinite speed, then by the equation E=MC2, then it would have to have infinite mass (I dont really understand the equation to that level to know whether it means that or doesnt), and thus if infinite speed was acheived (even though it cant be, as infinity is no single number) then due to infinite mass, it would destroy the universe.

So he used the speed of light as an example, as the limit of infinity (which destroys the point) but I think he meant the speed of light would be the limit before infinity. And then the conversation ended as another freind was getting fed up after someone brought up time as being an abstract concept.

Anyway, does would E=MC2 mean that if someone was doing infinite speed, it would create an infinite mass proportionate to the actual speed defined by infinity?

You`ve got the basic grasp.

The Speed of Light can be approached but not broken as the nearer the to the speed of light a particle gets, the heavier the mass of the object. It would take infinite energy to break the speed of light ,c .

However, as always with Quantum mechanics that is not the whole story.
Tachyons are particles that have been proposed (but not observed) that may break the Light Barrier.
Theree have been other experiments performed with Ceasium lasers, concerned with faster than light particles.
And as for Special Relativity and the like. Aargh.

See, the problem with detecting tachyons is that everything you use to detect them runs (at top speed) at light speed. So by the time you might have detected it, it's gone. Bit of a bummer really.

Ah. Im gonna read more about these Tachyons.

For "didn't really work", please read: "great pile of crispy goat wank".

Ah, so you detected the subtext of my earlier post. Must improve subtlety in future.

There's no subtext to the other post though; the film really is fucking brill.

This is good news.

Indeed. Versimillitude (or watchever the bloody word is) really does apply to the film. I was entranced by it all. I really want to see it again but it's a 16 mile drive to the nearest cinema and I doubt I'd be able to persuade the others to let me drag them along.

I think I'm the only one that hated this movie enough to write a negative review about it the moment i got home.

Link

I want my 9 bucks back.

I think this speaks volumes about why I want to see this as soon as is humanly possible:

Empire have given it a moist five star review.

As they rightfully should. 'Tis a masterpiece of the comic-adaptation sub-genre.