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innercitysumo
QUOTE (Simsydav @ Mar 11 2005, 10:21 PM)
I had to leave the room when Mcfly came on for that stupid interview.

I wanted to watch the rest of Spider-Plant Man, but I havent gone back in, as Im in fear of seeing Mcfly again...
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But wasn't it a mock interview with Catherine Tate as the 'Pikey' girl?
pots
wheres a mod to merge two threads when you need them?
Noodles
QUOTE (pots @ Mar 11 2005, 06:24 PM)
wheres a mod to merge two threads when you need them?
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From a forum such as this I'd expect 24 hour support. They need to get their rota sorted out.
pots
QUOTE (Noodles @ Mar 12 2005, 12:29 AM)
From a forum such as this I'd expect 24 hour support. They need to get their rota sorted out.
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yup. probably too pissed to type.
Cornetto
IT THE MODS ARE READING HOW COME THERE ARE 2 COMIC RELIEF ONES. YOU ALL LIKE CLOSING THINGS SO WHERE ARE YOU ALL NOW?????
feak
The programmes not my cup of tea, it's like watching my friends on E wacko.gif only interspliced with manipulative videos. I know they're manipulative for a point, but it still irks me. I still donate, because it's important and a British institution, but the TV show's not for me. Plus, well, this year, I don't even have a telly!

QUOTE (Starscream's Ghost)
Why? Because I`ve been born in the "4th richest country" (which I don`t believe for a second, poverty is rife in the UK)


There's differnce between relative and absolute poverty. Sure, some people live on the streets, some people can barely afford to eat (too many I agree), but that's a far cry away from the absolute poverty where you haven't even got access to clean water. It's incomparable. Yes there is poverty in the UK, and too much of it, but it's totally incomparable to other countries.
WiseJoeyD
So for those who want to see their appearance....






Oh, he's smiling! Go me and my capture button!
Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (toasted rayman spawn @ Mar 11 2005, 08:17 PM)
A lot of problems in the third world were *created* by british imperialism, so thats we (namely the british government and whoever else is responsible)should put our hands in our pockets...
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Why? As I`ve said before, this was *our* (my family is Irish, so we were fucked over by the Brits too) ancestors who did this, so why should we feel responsible? True, I have nothing against any sort of charity (apart from the aforementioned religious charity) but I hate the attitude that "You have to give because <insert Western country here> is so rich."

That being said, it`s good to see that they`re mentioning the G8 summit, because only things like fairer trade and cancellation of debt will truly help the third world, all aid does is exacerbate (that means make to make things worse wink.gif) already bad situations.
WiseJoeyD
Um...I feel a bit odd posting these here so, er....my view is that I didn't know the British caused AIDS or created the guerrila wars and dictators taht've plagued Africa..but then I'm pretty stupid.

Anyway, more pics!











...for those fans who don't have the luxury of BBC telethon coverage
pots
the scottish girl in green wing is really funny - she was great in book club too. what else has she been in?
Ingram
QUOTE (innercitysumo @ Mar 12 2005, 12:22 AM)
But wasn't it a mock interview with Catherine Tate as the 'Pikey' girl?
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"Am I bovvad though? Do I look McBovvad?"
widowspider
she was so funny...reminded me of a thousand girls who went to my school.

as for the charity aspect, one of the reasons i like comic relief is that it doesn't just hand out food and medicines. it sets up local schemes, where the people in the community can help to build their lives back up. it creates a sustained level of self-sufficiency and will hopefully change things permanently. but i also agree with starscream in that only the cancellation of third world debt and increased emphasis on fair trade will make a more global change.
but it doesn't mean you can't start by helping one person.
Ingram
Graham Norton... sigh.
PrincessKate
QUOTE (pots @ Mar 12 2005, 01:54 AM)
the scottish girl in green wing is really funny - she was great in book club too. what else has she been in?
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Jack Davenport.
frostitute
I got Spider-Plant Man just for Nick's part, that's about it.


...big teeth.
Simsydav
QUOTE ("WiseJoeyD")
....my view is that I didn't know the British caused AIDS or created the guerrila wars and dictators taht've plagued Africa..but then I'm pretty stupid.


Well, actually, it is the fault of many western nations, when we gave the countries independence, thats where most of the problems come from.

We made the borders along our own borders, of which had been conquered by the original nation (UK, France, Holland etc), thus meaning, that ancient tribal borders were being ignored, and tribes were spread out in different countries, and split up.

This is the same as what happend in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. We ignored the ancient borders, and set it up ourselves, not listening to the people. This is one of the major contributors to the Pakistani-Indian war, and now, agitation.

Also, it is also our fault, because we exploited them, through us having an empire there, and exploiting the indigenous black people, the actual blacks were very poor, and lived under apartheids, e.g. South Africa. This lead to the massacare of one of the type of people in Rwanda (I cant remember the name of them now), and this was because, this tribe was given more important jobs than the rest of the tribes in former Rwanda, during the Empires, this made them more equal and more important than the rest of Rwandian blacks. Thus, the government caused agitation after the fall of the empires, and Rwanda was given independence, and brought up the old hatred of that tribe, and led to the massacre of them.

Also, the fact that they were exploited by us, and are now poor as a result, means that when in dire need, people turn to a strong government - dictatorship. But, also, factions rise in nations, to try and have power, which will make them richer, and have a higher chance of survival, than the rest of the population that is starving.

Agreed, much of the causes of this are our ancestors fault, not ours, but, Capitalism keeps them poor, and so, we are all equally to blame for the poverty there, because we all have an effect on our economy, which in turn has an effect on the global economy. Capitalism needs exploitation in order to survive, and the people that will bear the brunt of that exploitation, are the poor. Capitalism cannot get people out of poverty.

This has all led to the situation in Africa today, charity can help, but, it cannot get people out of poverty, on a nation scale. Sure, its easy to get a few thousand out, even hundreds of thousand, but, they will all slip and fall back into the hole of poverty, as they will still be the poorest people, maybe not as poor as they were, but on a global scale, are still the ones that will be the most exploited by Capitalism, and thus, as long as Capitalism is there, poverty will be there.

Charity is therefore the least that you can do, to try and help out sort out the mess of your ancestors, but more importantly - To help relieve human sufferering. You cannot choose where you are born, or who your parents are, it is stupid and ignorant to be a nationalist. Sure, your thinking on a bigger scale than just living in a hole, where its just your family and freinds, but, where has human decency gone? The strongest thing that binds us, is not our borders, its is that little part of our DNA which makes us human. We all live in the world, all life feels pain. Would you rather them suffer, while you have more than enough? Greed is what causes segregation, agitation, which leads to violence. Sure, Capitalism is nice for those who are the haves, but it completely destroys the havents.
ronlogan1977
Well we've tried communism, feudalism ,national socialism and monarchism. They were all crap . Of course Capitalist society has its problems but at least you don't need a Secret Police to run it, you get to choose your own leaders or even become one yourself if you so desire and you also get the latest in consumer electronics. And no twelve page monologues will persuade me otherwise. So there. tongue.gif
shazam
none of them im getting pissed
superfurryandy
QUOTE (ronlogan1977 @ Mar 12 2005, 03:38 PM)
Of course Capitalist society has its problems but at least you don't need a Secret Police to run it
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May I refer the honourable gentleman to the Prevention of Terrorism bill.

Copper: You're nicked, chummy!

'Suspect': Why?!

C: We can't tell you that.

S: Why?!

C: It's a secret - we haven't even been told ourselves.

S: But where's the evidence?

C: That's a secret.

S: But how am I supposed to fight my case?

C: Beats me - now, get in that cell!
Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (Simsydav @ Mar 12 2005, 03:16 PM)
where has human decency gone?
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It was never there, there`s never been such a thing as human decency. Laws and morals are not there to protect people, they`re there to protect property.
Ingram
I really wish my vhs hadnt stopped recording two minutes into "When Johnny Met Keira"... sigh.
superfurryandy
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 12 2005, 06:49 PM)
It was never there, there`s never been such a thing as human decency.
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If you see an old lady fall over in the street, do you go to help her?

That's human decency.
Ingram
QUOTE (Ingram @ Mar 12 2005, 07:55 PM)
I really wish my vhs hadnt stopped recording two minutes into "When Johnny Met Keira"... sigh.
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Some kind hearted soul at KeiraWeb.com uploaded all of the Keira talking bits into .wmv. Lovely. Now that is dedication!
fear_of_pop
Bless.
But she has a really annoying horsey voice...
Ingram
With a face like that... she can sound however she likes smile.gif
gulfcoast_highwayman
QUOTE (fear_of_pop @ Mar 13 2005, 11:06 AM)
Bless.
But she has a really annoying horsey voice...
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Posh voices on women give me the horn. I'll be her stable hand 'helping' out when the motion of horse riding has got her in need of some assistance.

Too much info?
fear_of_pop
Nah!

Well maybe.

Posh toffness can be sexy I suppose. Alexander Armstrong's dulcet tones do get me all a quiver.
widowspider
if i ever met keira knightley i would punch her in the face. she's a crap actor and she's too thin. arrgh! hate her! mad.gif
whitey
QUOTE (widowspider @ Mar 13 2005, 05:16 PM)
if i ever met keira knightley i would punch her in the face. she's a crap actor and she's too thin. arrgh! hate her!  mad.gif
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boo. leave her alone. she lovely.
rabbit57i
QUOTE (whitey @ Mar 14 2005, 02:05 PM)
boo. leave her alone. she lovely.
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Yeah, but she still can't act. happy.gif
Starscream`s Ghost
Yeah, but when she looks that good, who cares?
Simsydav
Beats that guy that plays Harry Potters acting, hands down

And, I dont care, she doesnt need to act.
Celticstar
kill her with an axe!!!!!!!!!!!
fear_of_pop
Well I hope you aren't those type of boys who complain when girls love that talentless Orlando Bloom then. Blimmin' hypocrites.
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PrincessKate
QUOTE (fear_of_pop @ Mar 14 2005, 07:16 PM)
Well I hope you aren't those type of boys who complain when girls love that talentless Orlando Bloom then. Blimmin' hypocrites.
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No-But I am!

I've not seen much of his acting-fell asleep in POTC, but he's un-pretty in a heavy kinda way.
Starscream`s Ghost
Yeah, but he`s just a twat. No really.
superfurryandy
Have they been in a film together? They should be - can you imagine, "Bloom & Knightley, together at last - so bland you'll cry tears of boredom in your sleep".
fear_of_pop
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 14 2005, 07:20 PM)
Yeah, but he`s just a twat. No really.
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That's my point. smile.gif
He is the male version of Keira. Talentless pretty twat.
whitey
QUOTE (rabbit57i @ Mar 14 2005, 07:10 PM)
Yeah, but she still can't act.  happy.gif
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True.
Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (superfurryandy @ Mar 14 2005, 07:21 PM)
Have they been in a film together?  They should be - can you imagine, "Bloom & Knightley, together at last - so bland you'll cry tears of boredom in your sleep".
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Pirates of the Carribean.

Depp saved it.
whitey
QUOTE (fear_of_pop @ Mar 14 2005, 07:16 PM)
Well I hope you aren't those type of boys who complain when girls love that talentless Orlando Bloom then. Blimmin' hypocrites.
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I am but that's more because he's a foppish minger than to do with his obvious lack of talent.
superfurryandy
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Mar 14 2005, 07:23 PM)
Pirates of the Carribean.

Depp saved it.
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I remember now - I have seen the film but must have blanked their blankness.
widowspider
don't get me started on knightley - i've ended up in an argument with someone on another forum about her. it's just galling when someone so talentless becomes incredibly successful at something you will spend your whole life slogging at and never earn any money at. i am prepared and ready to do shitty temp jobs for the rest of my life so i can act, but it just smarts when someone with no ability whatsoever makes millions from it. surely everyone can understand why that is irritating?
Ingram
QUOTE (widowspider @ Mar 14 2005, 10:45 PM)
don't get me started on knightley - i've ended up in an argument with someone on another forum about her. it's just galling when someone so talentless becomes incredibly successful at something you will spend your whole life slogging at and never earn any money at. i am prepared and ready to do shitty temp jobs for the rest of my life so i can act, but it just smarts when someone with no ability whatsoever makes millions from it. surely everyone can understand why that is irritating?
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More often than not actors and actresses are models that have the ability to learn a script. In the case of KK she went to stage school and is attractive, therefore she was easy to be spotted early as an actress and has become successful. I see no reason to begrudge her that. By her own admittance she has no other qualifications, so I see good luck to her. Especially considering in no time at all she will be yesterdays news.
ronlogan1977
Keira Knightly doesn't really do it for me.
A-Friend
no - she doesn't do it for me either. Well I say "doesn't do it" ... really, she "refuses to do it" for me!!
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