Seeing as most of the stuff i post on this forum seems to be about a)Radiohead b)artichokes or c)falling over and puking (had to put that in) i thought i would create this thread for all those avid 'head listeners (probably just you ed.) to natter on about Thom, Jonny and co.

For instance, does anyone have any info on forthcoming albums?
Will the band really do the Eurovision Song contest?
Will there ever be a live DVD?
Does Thom's wonky eye have anything to do with artichokes?

all will probably not be revealed...

Ah, so it's really just me then... what do you think about Radiohead, me?

I liked The Bends. Everything they've done since then makes me feel angry and now I hate them.

They're one of my favourite bands, but I do go through phases of not liking them.

They're good, but not the best band in the world.
I saw them live a couple of years ago. They were really good, but I think they sound better in the studio.

Pablo Honey wasn't bad. I loved The Bends. OK Computer made me want to slit my wrists, & that says it all really

Of course they're the best band in the world! They started out as just another decent rock band with Pablo Honey, but ever since The Bends they've just gone from strength to strength. There were times when listening to Hail To the Thief that you could imagine them sitting back with a grin, safe in the knowledge that no other band in the world could come up with such effortless brilliance.

theyre ok...2+2=5 is a tune.

I think they've gone from strength to strength. They're not always listenable but you never get the impression they've just dashed off something to keep the punters happy - Pablo Honey excepted. I don't always love their music but I always appreciate it. They've also managed to be quite overtly political without falling on their arses or sounding dull and preachy like so many other artists (Tori Amos, you fallen idol, I'm talking to you).

I can't stand them!

Alright, but overrated, or it could be that I just don't get them.

Anyway, SFA are the best band in the world.

love some albums but others are kack, i mean what the hell was pyramid song? load of crap

I remember on the old forum there was a poll to see which was the best Radiohead album, and I think it became a close between between Kid A and OK Computer in the end....

"I wanna be wanna be wanna be Jim Morrisson"

I never liked them AT ALL to begin with, but about 8 months ago I was forced to listen to the first three albums in their entirety by a french lodger we had with us at the time.

He wanted me to listen to all 6 but by 3 in the morning I wanted to throw myself off a cliff.

At that time, I very much liked The Bends, and thought Pablo Honey was alright. I thought OK Computer was crap. But, not wanting to miss out, I forced myself to listen to it a number of times, before eventually coming to terms with it as a masterpiece. I'm yet to sample Kid A and others. I feel absolutely certain I'll dislike Amnesiac, and I too think that Pyramid song is an enourmous pile of pap. I'd like to give Hail to the Thief a go.

I love The Bends, but have never really gotten to grips with OK Computer except in a teenage-angsty sort of way when it first came out. To be honest, I haven't listened to their more recent stuff as they were moving away from the sound that I liked, ie The Bends. I think they are a good band, always pushing forwards, trying new things, etc., but I will maintain that Muse are the band Radiohead were touted to be but weren't.

Most depressing. Band. Ever.

Not even 'Just',
One of the coolest rock tracks of the 90s.
or 'Creep' -
One of the most overplayed over-rated tracks of the 90s.

I always hear radiohead and think to myself that there's some talent lurking around inside them, but their songs are utterly mind numbingly boring to me.

I wouldn't say they're depressing in the slightest, just incredibly tedious and dull.

I love Radiohead. I haven't listened to as much of the newer albums as i should but there's no doubt in my mind that The Bends and Ok Computer are two of the greatest albums of my lifetime. They're amazing live too. Just sends shivers down my spine.

How can anybody fail to see the brilliance of Amnesiac? It is simultaneously the most beautiful, innovative, cerebral, varied and sublime record of the last 25 years!

Kid A is maybe my favourite album. Feels like falling.

Didn't like Amnesiac. Seemed a bit lifeless.

Hail to the Thief... makes me think I'm missing something. Not keen.

Like that one, and the plinky plonky one, what is it... No Surprises! That's the one.

One must still be aware of the fact that Muse are, without doubt, a birthing of Radiohead. Unfortunately, somewhere between OK Computer and Kid A, Thom Yorke decided that having his head up his own arse was a nice and cheap way of keeping it warm, and there it has stayed since. Matthew Bellamy has yet to reach that stage, and thus Muse can continue to walk the easy street Radiohead have paved for them, as the biggest, and best, voice of british alternative music today.

While I'm not surprised that there are so many critical opinions of Radiohead on this thread (they're not and never will be mainstream after all), I am surprised at how few have actually given them the credit they (in my opinion) deserve.

I have a lot of respect for Muse, who are great musicians, make a huge sound for a three-piece, and are without a doubt one of the best live bands in the world, but having said this, I have no great desire to buy one of their albums. Radiohead have far more subtlety, innovativeness and maturity and I think have set the bench mark for what a modern band can achieve. I find derivative and ultra-fashionable bands such as The Killers, The Bravery, The Kaiser Chiefs and Kasabian far more depressing then Radiohead. Although I can comfort myself in the knowledge that these bands won't be successful for long. In fact, I find Radiohead's inventiveness incredibly uplifting!

Also in defence of Amnesiac, it possesses possibly the best final track of any album in 'Life In a Glass House'.

Here endeth the essay.

On the contrary Muse represent what Radiohead would have been if they possessed absolutely no musical invention or desire to push the boundaries. I am by no means defending all of Radioheads output as brilliant, but the one thing you can say about everything they've done since OK Computer is that they have traied to do something new and original, which nobody can ever argue is true of Muse's banal offerings. It is for this reason that Radiohead have sealed their place in the echelons of music greatness while Muse, though potable, will soon be forgotten.

Quite easily, thanks.

Radiohead just don`t seem to be saying anything other than "Life is awful, isn`t everything awful? Why bother to be happy, when we`re going to die anyway?"

Geezus. Thom Yorke`s right up there with Chris Martin, as far as I`m concerened, guilty of crimes against music. They`ve both had a pop at destroying music, by making it as bland, lifeless, and unlistenable as they possibly can.

So you're saying that anyone that doesn't give Radiohead the credit they (in your opinion) deserve is in thrall to the mainstream?

In my opinion, Radiohead aren't that far divorced from the mainstream themselves - they're a left field rock band, but not exactly avant garde.

I don't want to insult anybody, but you must admit that Radiohead takes a bit more intelligence to listen to than most chartbound output.

But does that make them better?

LOTR takes more intelligence to read than Harry Potter, but to be honest, more people find Potter a better read.

Intelligence doesn`t make something good. Just look at Giles Brandreth.

LOL!!!

But shouldnt there be substance to music. Is it really all about a superficially catchy tune, a teenage slut miming to lyrics about boyfriends and milkshakes that some 35 year old male millionare wrote. I'd rather teh music i listen to, as well as sounding great, provided some intellectual stimulation and food for thought.

I think there`s room for both. I don`t always want to watch films that mean something, brain candy`s good too.

And for me, the same applies to music, sure, I can listen to something that`ll make me think, but I don`t mind the odd dose of cheesy pop now and again. Depends what mood I`m in.

well there you are then, Radiohead provide the thughtful bit.

Not for me, they don`t. The only thoughts they inspire in me are depression. With all the money they`ve got, you`d think they`d smile now and then.

That being said, the South Park episode they were in is the funniest one ever.

I think I agree with skiptotheend to some extent, despite the unbridgeable gulf between our opinions on Muse, whatever you think of Radiohead's music, it is undoubtedly thought-provoking...

When I first listened to OK Computer I thought it was rubbish. I thought (and still think) that Heavy Petting Zoo by NOFX is rubbish.

But, where the NOFX album is hardly worth two words, OK Computer inspired me to write a 500 word post for another website on exactly why I didn't like it, perhaps what then spurred me on to appreciate it.

Yeah, but do you like the music?

I can't understand why SFA aren't acknowledged as the saviours of music they truly are, and as far as I'm concerned they've shown more innovation than Radiohead. But many people are happier listening to 'easier' music, and they always have been - you could argue that it's force fed on them, and it is to a certain degree, but people do have the choice otherwise we (and others like us) wouldn't latch onto the 'weird', esoteric bands that we do. It's not a question of intelligence, but what people like.

Well since we have decided we like intelligent music and are faced with the problem of other people not liking it too, let us reach the conclusion that while we are deep-thinking, wonderful people, they are merely frivolous and misinformed. I know i'm not a god, but to quote Woody Allen, "i've got to model myself on someone".

I have a question on this topic. Where does some of the more alternative music fit into this debate, for example Lemon Jelly, Quantic, Mr Scruff etc... because it seems by the rules of this thread that unless music 'means something' then it's cheesy chart rubbish for idiots.

Always up for a bit of Quantic!

And bring on the Mr Scruff!

I like music that I like, be that an SFA track in welsh, a 20 minute long GYBE dirge, or Duran Duran's 'Planet Earth'. Music at it's very core should inspire a gut reaction before an intellectual one.

For the first time ever, I agree completely with everything said there.

It is equally important to experiment and push the boundaries - as those acts you mentioned probably do. I was merely trying to defend my love of Radiohead.

In the end i suppose the most important thing is the music. You don't want bands spouting cod-philosphy like a bunch of wannabe-Heideggers. But by having substance i don't just mean indecipherable lyrics, the composition and sou8nds of the music should be in some way challenging. Haviong said that i like lots of music that has absolutely no meaning at all and pushes no boundaries what so ever.

Like Supertramp

Just tryin' to keep this one alive... i like talking about Radiohead.

I think you're in the wrong forum, you should head over to radiohead.com

I like No Suprises, Street Spirit & Pyramid Song - I think the mellower stuff reaches me more but I can't really claim to be a massive fan. I can see why people like it certainly and I'd like to think that I've got a good ear for music - I shall try listening to some more 'head and see if I can get into it. Where would be best to start?

Radiohead do inspire a gut reaction in me as well as an intellectual one. It seems a bit patronising to suggest that Radiohead fans like the band just because they think they should, but I suppose different people get different things from the music. By the way, I think the Furries are awesome as well! Radiohead may be my favourites but that doesn't mean I'm not into other bands too.

"Like Spinning Plates" - stunning song.