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dolfyn
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baking
scones are good source of nutrament IMO
Jubei
A little jog on/Hot Fuzz reference. Have I missed something? I thought it was just something thye did in Hot Fuzz, but CAD seems to think it's a typically British thing...

Zoe
It's a fairly common phrase. The first time I heard it widely referenced in pop culture wasn't after 'Hot Fuzz', but rather a couple of years earlier when Maxwell started using it during arguments in Big Brother. It became somewhat of a catchphrase along with Saskia's "at the end of the day it's dog eat dog, end of".

I think it's largely a London/Essex thing.

Or do you mean specifically the blowing a raspberry and flicking the Vs thing? I think that's relatively widespread too, but I can't think of an instance where they've been brought together on screen before. It takes a work of art like la Fuzz to bring such a powerful statement and striking image together.

I'd guess in the comic they're specifically referencing Hot Fuzz, but I'd consider both the comment and gesture to be quintessentially English.
Jubei
QUOTE (Zoe @ Nov 21 2007, 10:59 AM)
It's a fairly common phrase. The first time I heard it widely referenced in pop culture wasn't after 'Hot Fuzz', but rather a couple of years earlier when Maxwell started using it during arguments in Big Brother. It became somewhat of a catchphrase along with Saskia's "at the end of the day it's dog eat dog, end of".

I think it's largely a London/Essex thing.

Or do you mean specifically the blowing a raspberry and flicking the Vs thing? I think that's relatively widespread too, but I can't think of an instance where they've been brought together on screen before. It takes a work of art like la Fuzz to bring such a powerful statement and striking image together.

I'd guess in the comic they're specifically referencing Hot Fuzz, but I'd consider both the comment and gesture to be quintessentially English.
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Well, I know 'jog on' is a phrase, although I only know one person who ever says it. But blowing a rasberry a flicking a V? Never really got that as a thing that people do, unless they're maybe 10 or something, although nowadays they'd probably throw a rock at you or knife you instead. And that combined with Jog on, I didn't think of as being anything anyone really does, on screen or off, it was just a comedy I've got nothing better to say kind of thing. As for either being quintessentially english, I wouldn't have said so.
Zoe
The quintessential thing was a bit of a gag, as it's usually the sort of thing said about the Boat Race or jam and scones. Flicking the Vs and blowing raspberries are both very, very English things to do in my opinion (they remind me especially of Rik in 'The Young Ones') and they're both something I do a lot. I am childish and proud.
AusChick
Flicking the Vs is very English.
No-one has given the Vs to anyone in Australia since about 1983.
It's all about the single middle finger here because for some reason it's seen as much ruder.

I never even see or hear of the Vs except from English people.
Jubei
QUOTE (AusChick @ Nov 21 2007, 12:00 PM)
Flicking the Vs is very English.
No-one has given the Vs to anyone in Australia since about 1983.
It's all about the single middle finger here because for some reason it's seen as much ruder.

I never even see or hear of the Vs except from English people.
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I always thought the Vs meant Fuck Off, but a single finger meant Up Yours and was therefore less rude. The middle finger seems more american to me.
Raven
Hehe, blue boobies . . .
Omniscia
QUOTE (AusChick @ Nov 21 2007, 08:00 AM)
Flicking the Vs is very English.
No-one has given the Vs to anyone in Australia since about 1983.
It's all about the single middle finger here because for some reason it's seen as much ruder.

I never even see or hear of the Vs except from English people.
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I use it often, especially behind the wheel, because I feel it's less likely to overly-antagonize the target of my ire and still delivers personal satisfaction. biggrin.gif
rabbit57i
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I always thought the Vs meant Fuck Off, but a single finger meant Up Yours and was therefore less rude.

The middle finger means "Fuck You!"


QUOTE (Omniscia @ Nov 21 2007, 10:24 AM)
I use it often, especially behind the wheel, because I feel it's less likely to overly-antagonize the target of my ire and still delivers personal satisfaction. biggrin.gif
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Me too! laugh.gif
Jubei
Wiipedia agrees with me. I guess the sentiment remains the same though.

QUOTE (Wikipedia - Finger (Gesture))
In the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the V sign (given with the back of the hand towards the recipient) serves a similar purpose (primarily "Fuck off"), whilst "the bird" is more often used for "up yours", "swivel on it", "sit and swivel on it" or "sit and spin".
rabbit57i
QUOTE (Jubei @ Nov 21 2007, 10:50 AM)
QUOTE (Wikipedia - Finger (Gesture))
In the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the V sign (given with the back of the hand towards the recipient) serves a similar purpose (primarily "Fuck off"), whilst "the bird" is more often used for "up yours", "swivel on it", "sit and swivel on it" or "sit and spin".

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laugh.gif You guys have the option of two gestures with one being less offensive. We just have the one FU.

"sit and spin" laugh.gif How quaint.
Omniscia
QUOTE (rabbit57i @ Nov 21 2007, 12:01 PM)
"sit and spin"  laugh.gif How quaint.
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I always think of Fonzie when people say that, but I'm sure he didn't quite mean it that way.
rabbit57i
I always wanted a sit and spin when I was little.

thirtyhelens
QUOTE (rabbit57i @ Nov 21 2007, 08:01 AM)
"sit and spin"  laugh.gif How quaint.
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My buddy Mark used to append this with "...and when you hit my elbow, the ride's over."
curtinparloe
Winston Churchill did it as a victory sign.


However, to the best of my knowledge he didn't say "Jog on."
Sostie
QUOTE (Jubei @ Nov 21 2007, 03:50 PM)
Wiipedia agrees with me.  I guess the sentiment remains the same though.

QUOTE (Wikipedia - Finger (Gesture))
In the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the V sign (given with the back of the hand towards the recipient) serves a similar purpose (primarily "Fuck off"), whilst "the bird" is more often used for "up yours", "swivel on it", "sit and swivel on it" or "sit and spin".

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According to QI (the source of all knowledge!), there is no real definition of what flicking the Vs means. The most likely definition is that it is a variation of a finger on each side of your head, like devil's horns, which was the sign of the cuckold - to fuck someone's wife. Rather than "fuck you" it means "I'm going to fuck your wife".

The much suggested story that it comes from English archers taunting French soldiers has no real evidence to support it.

Personally I wish we could return to the good old Sid James V & rasberry combo.
melzilla
QUOTE (Sostie @ Nov 21 2007, 10:20 PM)
Personally I wish we could return to the good old Sid James V & rasberry combo.
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I never left. blush.gif

I do think the one finger salute is ruder but is also too overused and Americanised. Two fingers is always funnier as it's a bit more naff and "English" as someone already said.

I think the Mum test is a good one. I can get away with sticking two fingers up at my Mum (jokingly, of course) but never one!

Raspberries, however, are always funny. They sound like farts.
AusChick
My mum (and some other middle-aged people I've observed) do the raspberry along with a sort of "thumbs up" sign jabbed into the air.

That's real old skool that is.
Peronel
I can't do raspberries. My tongue must be mildly retarded. I can't do that rolling noise required for all the fancy french words either.

Chi-wah-wah.
curtinparloe
QUOTE (melzilla @ Nov 21 2007, 10:22 PM)
I can get away with sticking two fingers up at my Mum (jokingly, of course) but never one!
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ohmy.gif You did the Vs at your mum? Outrageous!

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I don't even do the "itching my face" Vs at my mum.

In fact, now I come to think about it, I hardly do the Vs anyway.
Rua
Not at Mum. No way.

My Mum's only even sworn once in front of the family, one Christmas at Liam Neeson at the end of Under Suspicion.
Zoe
We swear at Mum all the time, but not as much as we call her a Gayby Baby.
melzilla
I call my Mum alternative swearwords, like 'You big flump'.
Jimmay
I flick the V's on a regular basis to much amusement. While me and my mates were travelling around the US though we stopped at an internet cafe and the guy flicked us the V's and said "see you later" as we left. We realised it was more a "Peace-Out" sort of gesture but since then we swear at each other and say "See you later" instead of shaking hands.
maian
That's great. I've got the image now of some guy in America who was once taught that flicking the V was the peace sign and has been doing it wrong for years as a result. He's probably been beaten to death by ex-pats by now, but it's still a funny image.
Heff
QUOTE (maian @ Nov 23 2007, 05:19 AM)
That's great. I've got the image now of some guy in America who was once taught that flicking the V was the peace sign and has been doing it wrong for years as a result. He's probably been beaten to death by ex-pats by now, so it's an even funnier image.
I hate people taking photos of me, so for about 2 years I always stuck my middle finger up whenever someone tried. The thing is, they often came out pretty well. Since then I've grown up, and now I use verbal abuse instead. Hand gestures are more readily understood, but there's nothing quite so exquisite and mature as calling someone a fucking twat.

That said, it's still pretty satisfying to let someone know what you think of them with a well timed wanking gesture.
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Jubei
I tell you how I'd differentiate between two fingers and one these days. One finger would be used where I was trying to inform someone else that they'd pissed me off. Two fingers would be used where someone was pissed off with me and I wanted to let them know I didn't really care. Also double handed two fingers can be used for comedy swearing, possibly while doing a 'spaccer tongue'* at them as well.









*Am I going to hell now?
skkflip
LOL i remember when i used to live in Orlando, there were two families on my street, one from london and one from manchester, and us kids would hang out and play basketball, playstation and stuff, and one day we had a barbeque and my friends parents wanted all to take a picture. well we always liked to do silly things when taking pictures, so me and my friends (from america, and not knowing anything about throwing Vs) did silly hip-hop type poses with backwards peace signs, and when my friends moms got the pictures developed, she was ANGRY!!! lol learned something about an overseas culture that day. lol tongue.gif
Rush2112
QUOTE (Jubei @ Nov 21 2007, 06:23 AM)
A little jog on/Hot Fuzz reference.  Have I missed something?  I thought it was just something thye did in Hot Fuzz, but CAD seems to think it's a typically British thing...

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Not necessarily. The creator just likes to throw in random underhanded references to things he likes. Must be a fan.
baking
crikey. havent looked on this board in ages and dont remember making this thread. must have been "a-leetle-beet-drunk" ...ahem
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