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QUOTE (PrincessKate @ Nov 6 2008, 08:22 AM) *
If you're not going to provide examples to back you're opinion up you might as well fuck off before someone virtually lamps you.

Erm...yeah... hence the running and hiding.
Let's try and keep things civil, and avoid personal attacks please, ladies and gents. Thanks.
I still haven't seen episode five, but in the past week I've had two fairly scary nightmares involving it so I'm reticent to sit down to the final installment.
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QUOTE (PrincessKate @ Nov 6 2008, 08:22 PM) *
I still haven't seen episode five, but in the past week I've had two fairly scary nightmares involving it so I'm reticent to sit down to the final installment.

You need closure. Watch the last episode and the nightmares will stop.
I loved it smile.gif
I thought it was alright I did. Some nice gore but I agree that Patrick was way too much of an arsehole. I saw Brooker channelling through him to be honest in his hatred of everything. That was why I wasn't exactly sure if I was supposed to be on his side or not really.
Really? I didn't get that at all. I thought he was creating a hate figure rather than a version of himself. I initially thought that Joplin was a Brooker substitute, what with him using the same Vonnegut quote in the opening episode that Charlie used in Screenwipe. This impression did go away as the show progressed, unless Mr. Brooker has some really serious self-esteem issues.
I love a good geek argument laugh.gif

Simon's latest blog, where Charlie Brooker sets out his argument against Simon's fast zombie rant the other week.

SIMON’S BLOG: Charlie Strikes Back!

Last week I wrote a piece for the Guardian about why I prefer slow zombies to fast ones. You'll find it in the blog before last. The whole thing was sparked off by Charlie Brooker's undeniably excellent Dead Set (it's out on DVD, get it). Well, Charlie has formulated a riposte and exposed me as the old reactionary that I am.


Speaking of fantasy worlds, apologies for being:a) indulgent and b) nerdy, but I have to defend myself here. Last week Simon Pegg wrote a piece for this paper complaining about the running zombies in my preposterous horror series Dead Set. Proper zombies don't run, they walk, he said. I was all ready to write a stinging riposte until I read his article all the way through and realized it was dauntingly well-argued. So I'll keep this short and combative and hope I get away with it.

Simon: your outright rejection of running zombies leaves you exposed, in a very real and damning sense, as a terrible racist. And if the recent election of Obama has taught us one thing, it's that the age of such knee-jerk prejudice is firmly behind us. Still, let's indulge your disgraceful bigotry for a moment by assuming speedy zombies need defending, and list the reasons why ours ran, shall we?

1) I like running zombies. I just do.

2) They HAD to run or the story wouldn't work. The outbreak had to knock the entire country out of action before the producers had time to evacuate the studios.

3) We had to clearly and immediately differentiate Dead Set from Shaun of the Dead, which had cornered the market on zombie-centric horror-comedy. Blame yourself, Simon: if you'd made that film badly, it wouldn't have been so popular, and drawing a distinction wouldn't have been an issue. Each time one of our zombies breaks into a sprint, it's your own stupid talented fault.

4) Even George Romero, the godfather of zombies, bent the rules from time to time. Witness the very first zombie in Night of the Living Dead, which moves at a fair old whack and even picks up a rock to try to smash a car window. Or the two kiddywink zombies in Dawn of the Dead, who burst out of a room and run - yes run - towards Ken Foree. I know you saw these scenes. You know you saw these scenes. And you also know that if this were a trial, this would be the moment where you splutter in the witness box and admit you're completely wrong.

5) Running zombies are, to be frank, cheaper than stumbling ones. You only need one or two to present a massive threat. I love a huge mass of shambling undead as much as the next guy, but we couldn't afford that many crowd scenes. The original plan was to set the final episode six months in the future, by which time the zombies were badly decayed and could only shuffle (although "freshies" would still run), but budget and time constraints ruled this out. Which would you rather see - running zombies or absolutely no zombies at all?

Hmm? HMM?

I SAY - (grumpy mubling) Running ones Charlie...but if one of them kicks a football into my garden, I'm not giving it back!

You can read Charlie's contributions to the Guardian every week.


too funny, you're grown men for cliff's sake wacko.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Finally saw the last episode last night, and - though it had lost momentum after the 2 week hiatus between viewings - I enjoyed.
Incredibly downbeat, but well-executed. I was sort of glad Space and Kelly ended up the way they did, at least they're sort of still alive-ish.
Poor Riq, though.
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