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Sostie
A variation of the old Versus threads.

"Second Division" may not be the fairest term to use for these films but they are the ones that are not generally considered Arnie's real classics. So on this list you'll find no Terminator, Terminator 2, Commando, Predator, Total Recall or True Lies.

Also missing are his comedies. And Batman & Robin mainly because it's not really an Arnie vehicle (and I doubt anyone will vote for it).

Get voting.
NiteFall
Last Action Hero gets my vote. I think it's a far better film than it gets credit for.
Jimmay
I honestly don't know whether to vote for Running Man or Last Action Hero. I'll have to think on this one.
Sir_Robin_the_brave
Last Action Hero is great fun and much underrated.

I like Running Man a little more though, so I've gone for that.

Red Heat would be third.
Serafina_Pekkala
I like Running Man and Last Action Hero but I plump for End of Days. It is highly stupid and has Miriam Margoyles as a Satanic nanny and Gabriel Byrne is, like, Lord Sexxydebil*. Plus, Arnold says my actual name a lot and it makes me really laugh. These are very personal reasons.

*nobody else could beat him on sexy-ev0l except, of course, the Dark Lord of the 3 surnames. You know of whom I speak. If you say his name in front of the mirror thricely, he shalt appeareth.
Zoe
Is Running Man second division?

It might be in my top 5. So I've voted for that.

They're obviously all amazing, but Running man is head and shoulders above the rest.
logger
T3
Starscream`s Ghost
Running Man. If only for the fact that Jesse Ventura's hilarious in it.
mcraigclark
Last Action Hero for me.
Jon 79
Definitely Running Man for me. It looks a bit 80's, but it's Paul Verhoven and Philip K Dick... you can't beat that.
+ it has some classic cheesy Bond style quips. ... + it was the first 18 cert movie I ever saw!
Sostie
QUOTE (Jon 79 @ Oct 8 2009, 06:15 PM) *
Definitely Running Man for me. It looks a bit 80's, but it's Paul Verhoven and Philip K Dick... you can't beat that.


Err, it's Starsky and Stephen King.
Atara
What, no Hercules in New York? tongue.gif

It was a tough call between Running Man, Last Action Hero and Conan the Barbarian but I went for Conan in the end because I thought about the time he says 'Sluts' and have fond memories of arguments about if it has Bolero in it, not that that is a geniune reason why I prefer that film. Conan was one of the first Arnie films I ever seen as a nipper so it has a special place.

If I could re-vote I'd probably go with Last Action Hero, though.


Maybe.
fatseff1234
Running Man!
Sostie
I always find it difficult to love Running Man. I enjoy it, it's a fun, camp romp, yet there's always that thought in the back of my mind that by almost ignoring the original book, they wasted a chance to film one of the best action films ever.

I'm torn between Last Action Hero, Red Heat and Eraser.


One for fact fans: I heard last week that Christopher Reeve was originally considered for the lead in Running Man. Checking IMDB it seems this is correct. It was also offered to Dolph Lundgren and Swayze before Arnie
Atara
It is a book I need to read, maybe my opinion of the film would change if I read it.

I've never seen any of the Arnie films with 'Red' in the title. I fail as a fan
Sostie
QUOTE (Atara @ Oct 8 2009, 08:13 PM) *
It is a book I need to read, maybe my opinion of the film would change if I read it.


It really is a great book. Instead of a flashy gameshow in a controlled enviroment, it is a TV show where the contestant is on the run from the whole world. The public are rewarded for helping in his capture.

If you can find it get The Bachman Books. It includes Running Man, and the excellent Long Walk which has been promised a film adaptation for years.

QUOTE (Atara @ Oct 8 2009, 08:13 PM) *
I've never seen any of the Arnie films with 'Red' in the title. I fail as a fan


Red Heat is really just 48hrs dealing with East/West relations rather than Black/White relations. Good stuff. Arnie nekkid in the first ten minutes.
Raven
Honest to God, first thought on seeing the list in this thread:

Zoe's not going to think Running Man is second division Arnie.

QUOTE (Zoe @ Oct 8 2009, 02:17 PM) *
Is Running Man second division?


I'm voting for T3, it's nowhere near the standard of the first two Terminator films, but the truck chase is hugely enjoyable!
Atara
QUOTE (Sostie @ Oct 8 2009, 08:20 PM) *
It really is a great book. Instead of a flashy gameshow in a controlled enviroment, it is a TV show where the contestant is on the run from the whole world. The public are rewarded for helping in his capture.

If you can find it get The Bachman Books. It includes Running Man, and the excellent Long Walk which has been promised a film adaptation for years.



Red Heat is really just 48hrs dealing with East/West relations rather than Black/White relations. Good stuff. Arnie nekkid in the first ten minutes.


They have it on Amazon for 5.99. Will be buying that when I get paid. Thanks Sostie.
Everlong
Running man.

Classic, I love it.

"Hey, Lighthead! Hey, Christmas Tree!"

"I've seen you before. You're the asshole on TV!"
monkeyman
Last action Hero, It's great fun to see Arnie having fun with his own image and the action genre in general, I like it when the kid takes him into the video store to show him he's the star of Terminator but when he gets there it turns out it's Stallone (in Arnies world).

Conan the Barbarian is a close second though
Kick in the Head
I would say The Running Man is second tier Arnold, BUT top of that tier.

I think the only ones in that list I haven't properly seen are Conan The Barbarian, Red Sonja and Raw Deal, of which I've probably seen all but not from start to finish in one go. Particularly Raw Deal - I have no idea what it's about but it's just bored the hell out of me before it gets going.

I would also lend T3 support - that truck chase easily trumps the Matrix Reloaded motorway chase for fun, thrills and destruction. (I also liked Collateral Damage a fair amount - it was my birthday cinema trip!).
Ade
QUOTE (Jimmay @ Oct 8 2009, 01:27 PM) *
I honestly don't know whether to vote for Running Man or Last Action Hero.

That was exactly my dilemma.


But I've always had a particular fondness for Last Action Hero, so it just edges it.

Rubbababybuggybumpers!
Jon 79
QUOTE (Sostie @ Oct 8 2009, 06:16 PM) *
Err, it's Starsky and Stephen King.


Sorry. I read & typed running man... I was thinking of total recall.

How'd that happen?... Arnie, 1980's, cheesy, sci-fi... mind you, that's half the list.


QUOTE (Raven @ Oct 8 2009, 08:33 PM) *
but the truck chase is hugely enjoyable!

Especially with the Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em theme tune over it.
maian
Running Man for me. Even though it is not the film that the book deserves, it's still a really good romp that I always find myself watching whenever it's on telly.

I'm not a big Last Action Hero fan. I remember it boring me when I saw it the first time and I've never felt compelled to revisit it.
zeden
QUOTE (Atara @ Oct 8 2009, 07:26 PM) *
What, no Hercules in New York? tongue.gif


It would have had my vote purely for Arnies delivery of "Hercules does not need money!".

Last Action Hero gets mine mainly because it's a funny and well made parody of Arnie featuring the man himself. If only they'd dropped the whole kid stuff and exchanged it for a late teen/high school type then it would have made more sense and would porbably be remembered a little more fondly. As it was I don't think the film really had a market beyond those who'll watch a film just because Arnie is in it. And I'm thankful to be one of those people.
Sir_Robin_the_brave
I like the fact that the Jack Slater films are a nice parody/homage to the films that Shane Black used to write back in the 80s. The kid is very annoying but Charles Dance looks like he's having immense fun throughout.

I have killed a man and I wish to confess!
Bloomeeney
Gotta be Conan the Barbarian for me, just because I watched it at the right age I reckon.
Ade
QUOTE (Sir_Robin_the_brave @ Oct 9 2009, 09:13 AM) *
Charles Dance looks like he's having immense fun throughout.

I have killed a man and I wish to confess!

One of my favourite scenes, that.
melzilla
Running Man for me!
Ade
I have quite a few Arnie films to catch up on. I've only seen six from the list of twelve listed here. I also want to watch The Running Man again now - haven't seen it in at least 16 years.
Shack
A very hard choice indeed.

I do love Running Man, it's ahead of its time you know, and Red Heat and Eraser are pure knockabout fun, but for me, it's Last Action Hero.

Also ahead of its time and pastiched the action movie without killing it off. Superb.

Red Heat is definitely my favourite movie title sequence. It's set in Russia and all the R's and N's are the wrong way around.

P.s. "Don't drink and baaaaaaake"
Jon 79
QUOTE (Shack @ Oct 12 2009, 10:11 PM) *
It's set in Russia and all the R's and N's are the wrong way around.

That's what Russian is! [/Richard Richard]
Rua
Running Man for me. It's such a gosh darn joy.
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