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Space Pancakes
This game just came into my head so i thought id give 'you lucky people' a try

You have to say in less than 10 words 'I like feeder because' or 'I dont like feeder because'...........enjoy
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Stella MM
I don't like Feeder because they are achingly dull.
fatseff1234
i like feeder because of just a day, fucking awesome song
pots
i don't like feeder for the same reason stella mm said. honestly, piss poor vaguely angsty, ballady rubbish. 'achingly dull'? you said it missus, mediocrity like this doesn't deserve to be foisted on poor innocent punters.

that do? went a couple over.
Starscream`s Ghost
I don`t like Feeder because they embody everything wrong with rock.
deep thought
its not that i really dislike feeder. but i cant find anything to like. at all. mellow.gif

thats 16 words sorry. bah! now its 20... 24. crap.
Cubie
i dont like Feeder because they used the suicide of their drummer to sell records while at the same time dishing out meandering commercialised indie bollocks which i consider disrespectful to the dead.

ok so thats 28. i'll edit it down...

i dont like Feeder because they are gay.

there.
Nonus Aequilibrium
QUOTE (Stella MM @ Feb 24 2005, 04:47 PM)
I don't like Feeder because they are achingly dull.
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I couldn't have put it better myself.
Ell
I don't like feeder because they are really, really boring.
pots
ok time to move on.

"i hate keane because..."
Nonus Aequilibrium
QUOTE (pots @ Feb 24 2005, 06:34 PM)
ok time to move on.

"i hate keane because..."
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I hate keane because... they are achingly dull. (sorry to steal your line, stella, but it applies so well to a lot of things).
soph
i hate keane because they are shitter than feeder.
Stella MM
I have decided I don't hate Keane because they don't deserve the backlash.
Baz
I love Feeder as they have made some great music!
rebelstar
I hate Keane but ten words is not enough to...
Jessopjessopjessop
QUOTE (pots @ Feb 24 2005, 06:34 PM)
ok time to move on.

"i hate keane because..."
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off topic briefly - good choice of avatar pots! Genius.

I don't hate Keane, I'm afraid.
whixie
I hate Feeder.

I hate Keane.

There, that about says it all for me.
The Phantom
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Feb 24 2005, 05:40 PM)
I don`t like Feeder because they embody everything wrong with rock.
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sorry how do they do this?

also the comments someone made about them using Jon Lee's death to sell records, perhaps a little harsh. A huge amount of rock bands/musicians have sung about sadness/death/emotional love type stuff, it's just the way they express themselves. Grant Nicolas is a nice bloke and I don't think that it crossed his mind to cash in on his mates death.
Space Pancakes
QUOTE (The Phantom @ Feb 25 2005, 05:32 PM)
sorry how do they do this?

also the comments someone made about them using Jon Lee's death to sell records, perhaps a little harsh.  A huge amount of rock bands/musicians have sung about sadness/death/emotional love type stuff, it's just the way they express themselves.  Grant Nicolas is a nice bloke and I don't think that it crossed his mind to cash in on his mates death.
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THANK YOU!! someone needed to say that!
Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (The Phantom @ Feb 25 2005, 01:32 PM)
sorry how do they do this?

also the comments someone made about them using Jon Lee's death to sell records, perhaps a little harsh.  A huge amount of rock bands/musicians have sung about sadness/death/emotional love type stuff, it's just the way they express themselves.  Grant Nicolas is a nice bloke and I don't think that it crossed his mind to cash in on his mates death.
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OK. I find it interesting you quote me while having a go at someone else, but what the hell? I`ll bite.

Feeder embody everything that`s wrong with rock because they make formulaic, by-the-numbers pop shite that teenagers and those who want to appear "cool" but don`t want to like harder stuff like Marilyn Manson, System of a Down, and so on. "Dad-Rock", if you will.

Their songs are pretty much the same, radio-friendly popbollocks that is neither challenging nor innovative, and quite frankly that is remarkable for a genre like rock which prides itself on innovation and experimental music.

And to say they haven`t used Jon Lee`s death to sell records may not be right, but it`s certainly influenced their work, it`s been all angsty ballads after that happened, so while it may not have been a concious decision, but it`s certainly worked out that way. You certainly seem to think that because their drummer committed suicide they`re exempt from criticism.

Oh, and for the record? Being a nice bloke (which I have no doubt Grant Nicholas is) doesn`t mean that you`re able to make good music.
Starscream`s Ghost
I love Keane because at least they`re not the Scissor Sisters.
Baz
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Feb 25 2005, 02:36 PM)
Feeder embody everything that`s wrong with rock because they make formulaic, by-the-numbers pop shite that teenagers and those who want to appear "cool" but don`t want to like harder stuff like Marilyn Manson, System of a Down, and so on. "Dad-Rock", if you will.

Their songs are pretty much the same, radio-friendly popbollocks that is neither challenging nor innovative, and quite frankly that is remarkable for a genre like rock which prides itself on innovation and experimental music.
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And of course, Marilyn Manson and SOAD have never been played during the daytime on Radio, and not also making them "radio-friendly popbollocks".


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Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (Baz @ Feb 25 2005, 02:54 PM)
And of course, Marilyn Manson and SOAD have never been played during the daytime on Radio, and not also making them "radio-friendly popbollocks".
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Smartarse. tongue.gif
The Phantom
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Feb 25 2005, 02:36 PM)
OK. I find it interesting you quote me while having a go at someone else, but what the hell? I`ll bite.

Feeder embody everything that`s wrong with rock because they make formulaic, by-the-numbers pop shite that teenagers and those who want to appear "cool" but don`t want to like harder stuff like Marilyn Manson, System of a Down, and so on. "Dad-Rock", if you will.

Their songs are pretty much the same, radio-friendly popbollocks that is neither challenging nor innovative, and quite frankly that is remarkable for a genre like rock which prides itself on innovation and experimental music.

And to say they haven`t used Jon Lee`s death to sell records may not be right, but it`s certainly influenced  their work, it`s been all angsty ballads after that happened, so while it may not have been a concious decision, but it`s certainly worked out that way. You certainly seem to think that because their drummer committed suicide they`re exempt from criticism.

Oh, and for the record? Being a nice bloke (which I have no doubt Grant Nicholas is) doesn`t mean that you`re able to make good music.
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No I was simply asking what you meant by your quote, I didn't aim the other thing at you, I was aiming it at whoever said it.

however you seem to have got the wrong end of the stick with quite a few of my points. I didn't say that they are exempt from critisism because of Jon Lee's suicide, nor did I say that just because Grant is a nice bloke means he can make great music. What I did say is that I don't believe the thought crossed his mind that he could cash in on the situation. I agree completely that their music has been influenced by the suicide, but as I said before most rock musicians/singers feed of their emotions and divert that energy into their music, that's what makes it passionate.

If you don't like Feeder's music then fair play, slag that off for being dull, everyone has their own opinion.
tigerlily
QUOTE (Starscream`s Ghost @ Feb 25 2005, 02:38 PM)
I love Keane because at least they`re not the Scissor Sisters.
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I love the Scissor Sisters because at least they're not Keane.

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Lazlo Woodbine
I don't hate Keane or Feeder. It's true that neither band is particualry edgy and neither breaks any new boundaries musically but so fucking what? The bands that truely do this are very few and far between. It seems to me that some people automatically dislike certain bands because they've gained a particular level of popularity just because it's cooler to knock anything mainstream.
I've seen feeder a handful of times in the past and they put on some pretty good shows and whilst i don't choose to listen to the cds anymore because my taste has moved on i fail to see what they or Keane have done to deserve the backlash. Sometimes a good simple tune is all i want.
Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (tigerlily @ Feb 25 2005, 04:10 PM)
I love the Scissor Sisters because at least they're not Keane.

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Again, I say...

Smartarse. tongue.gif
rebelstar
QUOTE (Lazlo Woodbine @ Feb 25 2005, 04:31 PM)
I don't hate Keane or Feeder.  It's true that neither band is particualry edgy and neither breaks any new boundaries musically but so fucking what?  The bands that truely do this are very few and far between.  It seems to me that some people automatically dislike certain bands because they've gained a particular level of popularity just because it's cooler to knock anything mainstream.
I've seen feeder a handful of times in the past and they put on some pretty good shows and whilst i don't choose to listen to the cds anymore because my taste has moved on i fail to see what they or Keane have done to deserve the backlash.  Sometimes a good simple tune is all i want.
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Well, personally, I don't like Keane because the songs of theirs that I've heard have generally been dull and pedestrian - I think they deserve any 'backlash' that comes their way because, in my opinion, they're a bit shit.

As are the Scissor Sisters.
Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (rebelstar @ Feb 25 2005, 05:00 PM)
As are the Scissor Sisters.
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You`re wrong, you know.

They`re a lot shit.
rebelstar
Ahh, you're just trying to be cool... wink.gif
Jessopjessopjessop
QUOTE (Lazlo Woodbine @ Feb 25 2005, 04:31 PM)
I don't hate Keane or Feeder.  It's true that neither band is particualry edgy and neither breaks any new boundaries musically but so fucking what?  The bands that truely do this are very few and far between.  It seems to me that some people automatically dislike certain bands because they've gained a particular level of popularity just because it's cooler to knock anything mainstream.

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I'm with Lazlo. It doesn't matter whether a band is popular - stick to your underground tastes if you want. I like little-known electronic stuff that will *never* be in the charts, but also happen to like Keane, and I just don't care! Don't slag something off because it doesn't affect you emotionally.
rebelstar
So we're not allowed to express an opinion on something if we don't like it?
Nonus Aequilibrium
QUOTE (Lazlo Woodbine @ Feb 25 2005, 04:31 PM)
It's true that neither band is particualry edgy and neither breaks any new boundaries musically but so fucking what?  The bands that truely do this are very few and far between.
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On the whole I agree with that statement... you don't have to be really original and groundbreaking to be good. Sometimes, taking a tried and tested formula and doing it really really well can be far better than someone desperately trying to be "original".

However, imho Feeder and Keane take a tried and tested formula and do a poor to average job of it. I don't get worked up about it though because they're easily ignorable.
whitey
I hate most music. Which is why I don't really post in the music forum.
widowspider
i love music's ability to elevate or completely change my mood. i love both keane and feeder - i think feeder make some fantastic songs with beautiful lyrics, they use influences from pop, rock, indie and the odd bit of 80s synth. 'quick fade' is a sublime song to me. similarly, with keane, their singles have been massively overplayed but 'can't stop now' is an incredibly uplifting song. it always makes me smile smile.gif
i've been a musician since i was 6, so for me music is part of who i am. i'm currently in a choral society, and we're singing the messiah in april. it's the most indescribable feeling in the world when you are singing some of the best music in the world with 50 other people. it makes your heart explode with happiness.
...sorry, went off on a happy rant there. smile.gif
The Phantom
QUOTE (widowspider @ Feb 26 2005, 01:19 PM)
'quick fade' is a sublime song to me.
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it's a great tune, a real highlight from Comfort in Sound.
feak
I hate feeder because I hate forced rhymes. Lyrics IMHO are poetry, and poetry doesn't have to rhyme, so there's no point forcing it to rhyme at the cost of any meaning mad.gif Buck Rodgers was so overplayed and SO FORCED RHYMED!!! Rah!

Keane aren't too bad. I have trouble telling the difference between them and other current UK emo bands like Snow Patrol and that. But I did love the video for Bedshaped, not sure it would have suck out otherwise though. They're a bit bland and nothing about them really stands out in my memory.
Jessopjessopjessop
QUOTE (rebelstar @ Feb 25 2005, 05:39 PM)
So we're not allowed to express an opinion on something if we don't like it?
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Not at all, rebelstar - It's the reasoning for the vehement hatred I have a problem with.

QUOTE (widowspider @ Feb 26 2005, 01:19 PM)
i love music's ability to elevate or completely change my mood. with keane, their singles have been massively overplayed but 'can't stop now' is an incredibly uplifting song. it always makes me smile  smile.gif
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I think that is the main reason I like Keane too, widowspider. Most of the music I like - whatever genre - has that uplifting quality. I actively seek out music that raises the hairs on my neck, and listen to it subsequently for just that reason. That's also the reason I favour electronic dance music over all other genres - the best examples of it actually exist to change moods and elevate emotions, be that in a club, or between your headphones. Vocal or rock bands are often too angsty or depressing to give this 'upliftment', which is where bands like Coldplay, Keane, Snow Patrol, Doves etc, are different. They also happen to be incredibly popular.
ronlogan1977
I hate Keane because they're music is by Keane.
pots
QUOTE (Jessopjessopjessop @ Feb 28 2005, 01:05 PM)
Vocal or rock bands are often too angsty or depressing to give this 'upliftment', which is where bands like Coldplay, Keane, Snow Patrol, Doves etc, are different.
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the problem i have with keane and i guess its the reason why a lot of people don't like them is that they are doing emotion by numbers.

i agree totally with what widowspider is saying about uplifting, emotional music. i used to love bands like embrace. when 'all you good good people' came out i bought each version and saw how this small fragile tune became an epic uplifting anthem. each time i listened to it it touched me, excited me, made my heart speed up, raised the hairs on the back of my neck.

the problem is, the 'uplifting ballad' is now hackneyed and cliche, keys and strings are a short cut to supposed songwriting greatness, a substitute for real emotion. coldplay reached a peak with 'rush of blood' and unfortunately we have now got to put up with bands following their power ballad blueprint to a t. and people think keane are different because they don't have a guitar whereas it just cuts down their palette, their range of sounds.

keane's biggest crime, however, is that they have nothing to say. bland empty emotion lite cliches. sure, lots of bands are guilty of this but when they picked up their brit award it was a sad day for british music. 'wow, we're just three kids from sussex. thanks a lot' wheres the attitude? wheres the emotion? wheres the passion? in a world where the majority of the music we hear is bland demographic friendly chart pap surely our 'rock' bands can inspire a little danger or excitement instead of looking like they are picking up an essay writing award - 'why i want to be a pop star when i grow up' by that fat one out of keane, aged 12 and a half.

wheres the clash when you need them? or the pistols? can you see why the libertines are so popular? why a band churning out such shite as the others are so popular? why though i hate the others i respect them?
Jessopjessopjessop
QUOTE (pots @ Feb 28 2005, 02:11 PM)
the problem i have with keane and i guess its the reason why a lot of people don't like them is that they are doing emotion by numbers.

keane's biggest crime, however, is that they have nothing to say. bland empty emotion lite cliches. sure, lots of bands are guilty of this but when they picked up their brit award it was a sad day for british music.

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I get your point, Pots - what they write about is not groundbreaking, or conveying long lives of hardship, but the passion the lyrics are sung with - and he really belts them out - give them substance and emotion. Try singing along with something like 'bedshaped' - if you can bring yourself to! It's really emotive stuff.
SkipToTheEnd
I hate the libertines because the only reason anyone buys their records ios because they think itll be cool to like a band in which the singer dies of od, which he will...
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