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Raven
Peter Jackson has said that there will be no film of the Hobbit for at least four years and that it's going to take teams of lawyers to sort this one out as the film rights are owned by two companies.

You can read more about this here: No Hobbit picture for four years.
Agent Pickle
Gah, that would have been a good film as well. I love The Hobbit.
Ingram
He should suck it up, didnt he buy the LotR rights for like 18,000?
Ade
That's as maybe, but after the phenomenal success of the LOTR trilogy,
the two companies involved aren't going to let the rights go for a song
are they? They'll probably play hard ball, hence the team of lawyers...
Simsydav
I would like to see Bill Bailey getting a part in it, with his west country accent, he could be Bilbo.
Ingram
QUOTE (Simsydav @ Mar 13 2005, 05:54 PM)
I would like to see Bill Bailey getting a part in it, with his west country accent, he could be Bilbo.
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I would certainly enjoy a cameo from Bill as a hobbit smile.gif
HazyJayne
Didn't he say he was up for a part in LotR on Jonathan Ross? huh.gif
AusChick
I think he's a bit old to be Bilbo in the Hobbit.
I could see him as a dwarf though.

Cheers
AC
Raven
QUOTE (HazyJayne @ Mar 13 2005, 10:34 PM)
Didn't he say he was up for a part in LotR on Jonathan Ross?  huh.gif
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Possibly, but it's part of his Bewilderness stage act as well smile.gif
Omniscia
The question for me is, can/will Ian Holm reprise his role? Obviously, it's quite a younger Bilbo than was seen in Jackson's previous films, but then, he did portray a rather youthful fellow in the prologue to the Fellowship film...

If Holm can't do it, then who would you like to see?
AusChick
I loved the fact that Ian Holm played Bilbo in LotR - especially since he played Frodo in the old BBC radio play version (which I grew up with and loved as a kid)

He may be a bit long in the tooth to carry off the younger Bilbo now.

hmmmm who else?
I'll have to think about that one.

Cheers
AC
Raven
Right or wrong I've always imagined Bilbo to be an older character anyway so I would say Ian Holm should be fine for that - although if the film isn't made for another four/five years he may well be too old by that point.
Ingram
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 14 2005, 01:05 AM)
Possibly, but it's part of his Bewilderness stage act as well smile.gif
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Yes it's certainly on the "Part Troll" DVD. Then again he did talk about his act for a long time when he was on Johnathon Ross and the things he included in it. For instance that machine/instrument he uses that Johnathon thought was fake...
Omniscia
QUOTE (Raven @ Mar 14 2005, 06:17 AM)
Right or wrong I've always imagined Bilbo to be an older character anyway so I would say Ian Holm should be fine for that - although if the film isn't made for another four/five years he may well be too old by that point.
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Agreed. That's what I'm worried about -- the delay.

Just like Harrison Ford will always be Dr. Jones to me, he'll need an inordinate amount of Just For Men at the rate Indy 4 is proceeding.
Raven
QUOTE (Ingram @ Mar 14 2005, 01:42 PM)
Yes it's certainly on the "Part Troll" DVD.  Then again he did talk about his act for a long time when he was on Johnathon Ross and the things he included in it.  For instance that machine/instrument he uses that Johnathon thought was fake...
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You're right actually, it was Part Troll I was thinking of!
Svein
Well, the Lord of the Rings musical is not being received very well....

From the BBC
Jessopjessopjessop
QUOTE (Svein @ Mar 24 2006, 05:13 PM)
Well, the Lord of the Rings musical is not being received very well....
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What did you expect, this little number?

Julie
QUOTE (Svein @ Mar 24 2006, 01:13 PM)
Well, the Lord of the Rings musical is not being received very well....
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Everyone I know that's seen it so far has really enjoyed it. But I really can't imagine it being anything short of ridiculous.
shinyelvenqueen
QUOTE (Svein @ Mar 24 2006, 05:13 PM)
Well, the Lord of the Rings musical is not being received very well....

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Well....if what they say is true in The Producers, then.....

As for The Hobbit, the article was last year's so that gives us three years to go. Woo hoo! How about Michael Caine as Gandalf. For starters.
maian
QUOTE (Ingram @ Mar 14 2005, 01:42 PM)
Then again he did talk about his act for a long time when he was on Johnathon Ross and the things he included in it.  For instance that machine/instrument he uses that Johnathon thought was fake...
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It's called a theremin, and is quite possibly the best musical instrument ever, both as a concept and as an actual instrument (see ''Good Vibrations'' by the Beach Boys) and you can make one from an old radio.
Ingram
QUOTE (maian @ Mar 24 2006, 07:43 PM)
It's called a theremin, and is quite possibly the best musical instrument ever, both as a concept and as an actual instrument (see ''Good Vibrations'' by the Beach Boys) and you can make one from an old radio.
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It's taken just over a year for me to find out what the name of that is, I thank you for your much belated quoting Ed! biggrin.gif
GundamGuy_UK
I can still remember the farce that was The Hobbit stage production I went to see in Manchester about 4 years ago. With such highlights as:

-A revolving set that was 2 large sections that spun round to reveal different things. I lost count how many times it got stuck and a techie had to kick it to get it going again, accompainied by much mechanical whirring and banging.

-A man in an eagle costume, whose feet could be seen dangling from the ceiling a full 10 minutes before he entered, and when he did it was possibly the worst flying effect I've ever seen.

-Ringwraiths were in it at the end with glowing swords, for some reason I can't even remember.

-Gandalf looked like the head priest in Temple of Doom, in fact I'm pretty sure he had a skull on his head.

-Some laughably bad acting from a few of the cast members, including Gandalf who for some unexplained reason had a different voice at the end (with the ringwraiths) "You are not the Hobbit you once were, Bilbo Baggins" in a silly high-pitched voice...

And this was a profesional production I paid good money to see.


I'm sure that must be worse than the musical LotR.

As for The Hobbit film, I'm willing to wait so long as the end result is good.
Svein
If we have a Hobbit movie, then I think we should have Sir Ian back as Gandalf... I know he'd be happy to do it!
Simsydav
Mcellen played the role perfectly. His nose was the best part.

Why didnt they make the hobbit before lotr?
GundamGuy_UK
Because it wouldn't make as good a film, they thought.

They'd always planned to do LotR and then Hobbit if it does well, I seem to remember reading.
Raven
Hobbit goes ahead without Jackson.

Let The Nerd Riots of 2006 commence! ph34r.gif
curtinparloe
QUOTE (Raven @ Nov 21 2006, 01:51 PM)
Hobbit goes ahead without Jackson.

Let The Nerd Riots of 2006 commence!  ph34r.gif
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I guess they wanted a film shorter than 4 hours...
empathy-with-beast
Jack asses. But the sad thing is they know you'd go and see it if it was directed by a trained monkey.
Starscream`s Ghost
QUOTE (empathy-with-beast @ Nov 21 2006, 02:07 PM)
Jack asses. But the sad think is they know you'd go and see it if it was directed by a trained monkey.
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So George Lucas is doing it?
thirtyhelens
QUOTE (curtinparloe @ Nov 21 2006, 06:06 AM)
I guess they wanted a film shorter than 4 hours...
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Actually, PJ and Fran Walsh released a statement explaining exactly why New Line passed on them. All in all, it would seem, a disappointing end to the relationship given how instrumental New Line were initially in getting the trilogy made properly.
Raven
Part of me can't help but think that this is sabre rattling from both sides - New Line applies pressure on Jackson (and his law suit) by saying he's out, Jackson retaliates by getting the fans worked up into a froth . . .

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Given how much Wingnut and WETA have already done however (design wise for the LoTR trilogy), and given how well they and Jackson know the subject, they are surely better positioned to bring the film in for a smaller out lay - anyone else taking this on is going to have to start from scratch and that's surely going to cost New Line more.
Raven
And so it begins . . . wink.gif
thirtyhelens
Well...they do have every right to be upset. I was looking forward to seeing WETA's version of Smaug myself.
Raven
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Jackson doing this!

I don't see another director having a ghost's chance in hell of pulling this off!
curtinparloe
I understand Paul WS Anderson's going to give it a go. After all, it was a game on the Commodore 64...
Raven
QUOTE (curtinparloe @ Nov 23 2006, 01:00 AM)
I understand Paul WS Anderson's going to give it a go. After all, it was a game on the Commodore 64...
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Oh Christ no! wacko.gif
maian
The other, slightly nicer, rumour is that Sam Raimi is in the running to direct.
fatseff1234
Maybe Bruce Campbell can play one of the dwarves.
zeden
QUOTE (maian @ Nov 23 2006, 11:28 AM)
The other, slightly nicer, rumour is that Sam Raimi is in the running to direct.
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I hope not. He needs to get on with Evil Dead 4 and give the big blockbusters a rest.
fatseff1234
QUOTE (zeden @ Nov 23 2006, 12:09 PM)
I hope not. He needs to get on with Evil Dead 4 and give the big blockbusters a rest.
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Can you seriously see this happening anytime soon?
zeden
No, but I can hope and pray and maybe, if I say it enough times, it'll happen.
Sir_Robin_the_brave
He's not directing Evil Dead 4 just writing the script. Actually I've just noticed that it's been removed from the IMDB. I doubt we'll ever see it, which is probably a good thing.

EDIT I found it again. 2008 they claim. Hmmm.
Crutch
QUOTE (curtinparloe @ Nov 23 2006, 02:00 AM)
I understand Paul WS Anderson's going to give it a go. After all, it was a game on the Commodore 64...
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Maybe Boll will take a shot at it.
NiteFall
Of course, by "rumour" you can actually read "geeky fanwank wishlist director". At the moment I'm probably just as likely a choice.
curtinparloe
QUOTE (Raven @ Nov 23 2006, 11:23 AM)
Oh Christ no!  wacko.gif
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Sorry, I lied.

I can't believe I typed that with a straight face!! laugh.gif


QUOTE (Crutch @ Nov 23 2006, 02:22 PM)
Maybe Boll will take a shot at it.
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That was the alternative I was mulling over...
Raven
QUOTE (curtinparloe @ Nov 23 2006, 05:35 PM)
Sorry, I lied.

I can't believe I typed that with a straight face!! laugh.gif
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Why, you . . . rolleyes.gif
Raven
Sounds good, let's hope his cunning plan works! smile.gif
shinyelvenqueen
QUOTE (fatseff1234 @ Nov 23 2006, 11:44 AM)
Maybe Bruce Campbell can play one of the dwarves.
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Better as one of the leading men of Dale.

If Smaug is anything as good as the dragon CGI in Reign of Fire then they'll be fine, however it could go all wrong such as the Dungeons and Dragons' dragon. (Lordy please no)
empathy-with-beast
With Jackson currently out of the running other contenders step into the fray

The Battle of the Five Armies featuring literally tens of people.

Also I'd never heard of this. Does anyone know anything about it? I particularly like the rendering of the dwarves in a sort of David and the Gnomes style.
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